valve amplification
fun indeed
lol. I was thinking , jeez 600 quid amp 3700 quid speakers,ok whatever .
fun indeed
lol. I was thinking , jeez 600 quid amp 3700 quid speakers,ok whatever .
£1400 is pretty expensive for me.
of course it does, people don't demand something inferior for the same money especially if its going obsolete. E.g. Hd-dvd player prices after it lost the warner deal....prices tumbled!
I'm am absolutely certain that this happens, particularly in hifi.
Are you within striking distance of Cornwall gb ?. Because you are more that welcome to plonk your Neats in the boot and pootle down here for a taster of the darkside. Actually i wouldnt mind betting your Roksan would be on the bay in a trice once you have pulled yourself back together 
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Im sure the powers that be would sort out email addys if you are up for it one weekend.
Ever listened to a valve amp? Maybe then you will find out people still listen to them.
I can see lots of disadvantages to valve amps, low power output and high distortion to name two, but what are the advantages? Why are they still made and bought?
Have you ever listened to a valve amplifier? Maybe then you will find out people still listen to them!
Are you within striking distance of Cornwall gb ?. Because you are more that welcome to plonk your Neats in the boot and pootle down here for a taster of the darkside. Actually i wouldnt mind betting your Roksan would be on the bay in a trice once you have pulled yourself back together .
Im sure the powers that be would sort out email addys if you are up for it one weekend.
Unless, of course, if your speakers have a pair of Audio Research Reference 750s up their bottom .
My 845s dont fair too badly either 
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. Having said that, I tested out the pm 7004 against it and it had more grip on the low end, so did my ca 340 a (believe it or not)....the low end is plentiful but as I am used to the bass from my AKG k702s, I like utterly precise bass with anal control
Neither do my MS 6's .
Eh ?. Are we singing from the same hymn book ?.
Quite possibly so my friend
I can see lots of disadvantages to valve amps, low power output and high distortion to name two, but what are the advantages? Why are they still made and bought?
Have you ever listened to a valve amplifier? Maybe then you will find out people still listen to them!
Yes, to be honest it sounded fine. I'm not in the market though as my preference is for active speakers.
Well...I can't consider myself an expert in the "Hi-fi" world but I feel quite comfortable in adding my point of view at this regards as I have been able to demo quite a lot last 9 months and I ended up buying a "low-power" old-style valve amp.
Not sure about all technical specs in terms of distorsion, harmonics etc...but since the final purpose of this hobby/passion is to listen to music, I guess everybody should buy whatever is more pleasent to listen in the end, correct?
Would you discard an amp or a type of sound/presentation you love if somebody would show you how much distortion it produces compared to another amp which you liked less?
I have been demoing a lot of SS amps of any brand, class A, AB, D, ranging from 2k to 14k euro...and I ended up buying an old fashion completely hand-made tube amp rated 35W "only". Why is that?
Because the type of sound presentation it provided was so much intense, rich and emotional that at each time I switched it on it was like melting...and I couldn't stop listening to it. Then matched to a good turntable and a tube phonostage was the most beautiful thing I have ever listened.
Today I don't regret a single time the choice I have made (which was a difficult one, you can read my over 400 posts thread if interested 
) and I appreciate everyday a bit more the quality of sound. I won't switch to solid state anymore.
Just my 2c if that could be of any interest 
Ok Shafesk ,please enlighten me as to what MS 6s are ?.
Ok Shafesk ,please enlighten me as to what MS 6s are ?.
Mordaunt Short Mezzo 6s
Jax, IMO this shouldn't be a technical argument about distortion, but whether one prefers the sound that comes out of the speakers. You have at least tried it, and discovered it's not for you....though you might be surprised by the way VTL can sound.
I quite understand, that for certain individual preferences over presentation and tastes in music, the Valve amp is not the right solution......but there are certain things that valves do that SS just can't match, and I don't think anyone who is inquisitive enough to experience this, should be put off.
There is certainly no harm in highlighting the downsides, but many people find the strengths more than compensate, especially for certain genres of music.
I hope you know that I'm not "having a go", but putting the alternative viewpoint.
Cno
To each his own. Good post.
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