Not sure if you wished to add some coming soon, however furutech are due to launch the esprit and stride soon. they currently have the cruise headphone employer out to sit alongside their gt40.
Thanks Phil! I will look at adding them as soon as I can find the specs for them.
Here is an update for the list. Added some Musiland, Calyx and Audio-gd models
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The Arcam rPAC
£150, USB DAC and headphone amp. Simple and rather pretty.
Thanks idc, that one does look very interesting. The rPac is already on the list but I have added a couple of models from Musiland & AudioTrak / ESI.
Also I have split this into 2 different price brackets as it's getting too big now (£250 is the split but only because it's in the middel of the list :)... Enjoy
**Click HERE for full size DAC / amp list below £250**
**Click HERE for full size DAC / amp list above £250**
Hi there Quadpatch!
Indeed a nice work!!!
In addition, what would be very useful for certain users (as for instance for me :wave: ), would be a column saying, wether Analogue-to-Digital-Conversion is supported, or not. The Furutech ADL GT40 and ADL Esprit have this feature, for instance.
It is important to me, as I do a lot of Vinyl back-up up to 24/96 - files. And the maket for hi-fi-gear being capable of this, is very thin. Until recently, I was pratically stuck to portable musicians gear. I used a E-MU 0404 USB for this purpose, and was quite happy with its sound performance, however, I damaged it... (by connecting it the wrong way to my linear power supply, I am still kicking my own behiind for that...). Anyway, this is the moment for an upgrade, rather than a downgrade, and I am looking for A/D - USB - gear, made with HiFi in mind.
I started a little comparison over there at the head-fi forum:
However, there might be other devices in your list, that have the feature, of converting analogue to digital. So, if you still have all those specs with you, it would be indeed extremely useful to see this in your table!
Hey thanks ursdiego! I'm glad you like the list :).
I did think about adding a collumn for ADC (bi-directional USB) on the list, the reason I didn't was that the GT40 was the only device out of nearly 80 to support it. If a few more companies did it then I might consider it but I think it's a bit too niche.
On a side note ADL are off my Christmas list at the moment because of their pricing. Nearly £400 in the UK but about half that in Denmark of all places, quite why that is just confuses the heck out of me, Denmark is not a cheap place! It seems like ADL are taking advantage of the UK super TAX phenomenon :(.
OK... sad that nobody except for Furutech/ADL has realised that AD-recording is a need of the hifi-consumers...!
With regards to the pricing: Well well and I thought, we were the only in Switzerland to systematically pay twice the price than anybody else. However, it always depends very much on what and where.
As far as Furutech / ADL is concerned, I saw that in the US prices are way lower than within the EU. What I realised as well is, that dealers in the EU have apparently a large marge elbowroom with regards to the pricing. I got a quote with 15% of rebate, without even asking for it... So maybe, it is not Furutech / ADL who do the pricing, but the distributors.
Maybe you might get a decent rebate from your UK distributor if asking...? If telling him, that you could get it cheeper in the US, even if paying the UK import taxes...?
It seems like they charge what they think they can get away with and how can we blame them, it's business at the end of the day. I guess I am surprised by the logic, it feels to me like they would sell a lot more if the price was lower, thus making them more profit but what do I know. I have never been succesful at bartering with shops on prices for tech like this, maybe I should try more.
As for the AD converter on a DAC: To be honest I get why they don't include the feature on most DACs. I wouldn't want the feature and I can see why a most others wouldn't want to pay for it to be included either. If it was really that much in demand the GT40 would be sell like hot cakes and then other manufacturers would follow suit.
I have just realised that I did add a collumn on the list for ADC. How stupid of me, it's just not that clear and I forgot. There is one more DAC that does it but it's the cheapest one (Fiio D5). Anyway the collumn is 'USB' under the 'Outputs' section. Which says that it can take analogue and feed digital back through the USB. As you will see those were the only two models that have a green '1' in the box. Sorry about that, where is my brain :P.
Try this one.
Thanks Overdose. Are you going to get this? I will stick this on the list as soon as I see a review, might be tempted to get this myself.
I am going to wait for the desktop amp project to be released. This looks exactly like the sort of no-nonsense product that I like though. No bull and actually seems properly designed and tested.
Very nice results.
That's so awesome list.
Appreciate your hard work.
I need u r advise pls. I have Asus G74sx laptop as source,and Musical fidelity V-dac and V-psu. Which option will be the best to hear Flac files,just buying a headphone amp and then connect to the v-dac(Hope it supports) or buying a Amp &Dac combined one.
If so could u pls recommend something around 300 pounds pls.
Hey, really glad you appreciated the list
Which headphones are you going to use with it btw, that doesn't matter I'm just curious :P. Anyway since you already own a decent DAC you could of course just buy a headphone amp but I don't know too much about them yet. I only have combined units at the moment.
From what I have read the combined ones can offer better value for reasonable costs and a more convinient solution for headphones anyway but it's up to you if you don't mind ditching your current DAC for that. I can highly recommend the Yulong D100 mkII if you do look to go down this road, it is around the price you mention. You don't see many reviews out there for the mkII version but I love mine! I haven't heard the DACMagic plus or Asus Essence One (which are similar prices) when I did my research the Yulong seemed like the most best choice and I don't regret it.
I have since heard the Audiolab M-DAC and am lusting after that too but it's twice the price!
quadpatch wrote:... Anyway the collumn is 'USB' under the 'Outputs' section. Which says that it can take analogue and feed digital back through the USB. As you will see those were the only two models that have a green '1' in the box. ...
Anyway, of course, not everybody needs it... they might include it as an option, too, or even, manufacture pure a-d-converters with the hifiers perspective. Like the Benchmark ADC 1 USB. A litte bit expensive, however :).
what is the usb sampling rate of ibasso d12? i read that is 16/48 but in your list appear that is 24/96. :quest: