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CD Player or Streaming?

I have bought a Naim XS 2 for my Dynaudio Focus 260. It is a perfect match. Now i doubt to replace my Marantz cd 6004 for a Naim CD5si. Will it give a better sound? Or better keep the Marantz and buy a streamer?

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RE: CD Player or Streaming?

That would probably depend a lot on how big your CD collection is and how much in the way of music files you have on your PC or whatever you intend to stream music from.

 

 

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They're certainly two contrasting experiences. Difficult to say which is best for you. I moved over to computer streaming last year and I wouldn't want to go back. Yet I understand where people are coming from who say they miss the physical interaction and the act of putting a CD on. Streaming does take away the 'sense of occasion' of actually putting a CD pn, sitting down and listening to it.

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How does the CD6004 sound with the XS 2?

Personally I would go for a CD player if I am honest (thats if I had a large CD collection and it was my main source)

 

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I have more than 500 cd's but none of them ripped. But isn't the CD era end?

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They're selling less, but in lieu of a sufficient replacement, I reckon they'll be here for a while anyway. But it's not hugely relevant. If they stop making CDs tomorrow you'd still have your 500 CDs, so you need either something play them on or rip them to. If you really like the experience of using a CD player, and  the thought of streaming does not appeal to you, I see no reason why you can't happily upgrade. But I personally wouldn't want to go back to using a CD player all the time.

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I have more than 500 cd's but none of them ripped. But isn't the CD era end?

No. Probably not for a long time to come.  Even the vinyl era hasn't ended yet (in fact it's thriving again) and CDs have been around for over 30 years.

Buy what you are most comfortable with and don't worry.  People who rip their CDs still buy new ones. (My purchase of CDs has doubled - or even tripled -  since I sold my last dedicated CD player.)

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The thing is once you have a streamer, it's difficult to go back to playing CDs. And there is a certain element of futureproofing if high-res music takes off and prices become more affordable.

However to say CD is dead is not true and I suspect they'll be available for many years to come. My CD purchases have increased since getting into streaming and I purchase quite a few second hand CDs which are extremely well priced - much cheaper than vinyl or music downloads.

You may not have any CDs ripped at the moment, and it will take time to do the lot, but going through the process lets you rediscover all your old music catalogue.

If you did go down the streaming route you should still keep a CD transport somewhere to hand, even a cheap DVD player. Using the digital output of said player you could go through the DAC of a streamer (if it has one), and still be able to listen to CDs when the mood takes you.  Win/win Smile 

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All what i read is that the trend is streaming. But then which one? Naim is fine, but very expensive. The new Sony with harddisk? Or Cambridge or Pioneer n50? Marantz comes this year with the new NA 8005.

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For CD either the Rega Saturn or Naim CD5XS and for streaming, apparrently the Pioneer you mention is supposed to be very good.

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chebby wrote:

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I have more than 500 cd's but none of them ripped. But isn't the CD era end?

No. Probably not for a long time to come.  Even the vinyl era hasn't ended yet (in fact it's thriving again) and CDs have been around for over 30 years.

Buy what you are most comfortable with and don't worry.  People who rip their CDs still buy new ones. (My purchase of CDs has doubled - or even tripled -  since I sold my last dedicated CD player.)

You are correct as usual chebby. The CD has not quite expired, in fact it is going strong and the physical media is getting cheaper to buy. Stock up now I say.

If you really intend to head down the streaming route it is going to cost you particularly if buying hi-res downloads.

I still cannot find half of what I want to purchase as a realistically priced hi-res download so am quite content to buy the CD and rip it myself.

I am sure there are many in the same boat.

CD is far from dead believe me, and note the number of hi-end  kit manufacturers that are still churning out CD players or transports.

 

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peterpan wrote:

All what i read is that the trend is streaming. But then which one? Naim is fine, but very expensive. The new Sony with harddisk? Or Cambridge or Pioneer n50? Marantz comes this year with the new NA 8005.

If I were you I'd get a Sonos Connect and hook that up, for 250 quid it won't break the bank and with the Naim and Dynaudio's it'll sound great.

If it's not for you, you'll be able to flog it on for not much loss...

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If you really intend to head down the streaming route it is going to cost you particularly if buying hi-res downloads.

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite. Of course, you're right about  hi-res downloads. But streaming at CD quality needn't be expensive.

I was going to suggest doing the two, CD and streaming, in parallel. So keep playing CDs, but at the same time dip a toe in the water of streaming (excuse the pun). For instance, some CDPs and universal disk players now have digital inputs. As for the streamer, there are good guides on the web explaining how to build a streamer for next to nothing. And some off-the-shelf streamers aren't too expensive, e.g. the Sonos Connect.

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matt49 wrote:

Al ears wrote:

If you really intend to head down the streaming route it is going to cost you particularly if buying hi-res downloads.

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite. Of course, you're right about  hi-res downloads. But streaming at CD quality needn't be expensive.

I was going to suggest doing the two, CD and streaming, in parallel. So keep playing CDs, but at the same time dip a toe in the water of streaming (excuse the pun). For instance, some CDPs and universal disk players now have digital inputs. As for the streamer, there are good guides on the web explaining how to build a streamer for next to nothing. And some off-the-shelf streamers aren't too expensive, e.g. the Sonos Connect.

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In my case, when I left CDs behind I simply started listening to more music. It's easier to have more music as it doesn't occupy physical space, and it's easier to browse through it and choose something. Now I don't have a single CD player at home—not even in my laptop and desktop computers—, and my brother has my whole CD collection.

And even though I'm also a Spotify Premium suscriptor and keep a few music lists, I still like listening to full albums. Some feel almost like books, with an introduction, development, and an end. But other times, music lists are also great and that's something that doesn't work with a CD collection.

Anyways, the Marantz CD6004 has digital outputs. A streamer that implements a good DAC and has digital inputs may also serve to improve the sound quality from the CD player at the same time.

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I prefer streaming music because I find it easier and more flexible than using CD's. You don't need to spend a fortune on a streamer to get good sound quality either. Your money is better spent on amplifiers and speakers if you want an improvement in sound quality.

 

I suggest you try a Sonos, Cambridge Audio StreamMagic or second hand Squeezebox Touch. Also a small silent media PC or Apple computer into an external DAC works well.

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RE: CD Player or Streaming?

The Naim will cost a lot more and offer not much over your current Marantz. 

Id keep your cdp and start with streaming as well. Remember any PC is effectively a streamer. 

Sonos is nice and simple, can be controlled by a great phone app (about to be updated). In fact I don't bother with a personal library, and use the Sonos to access Spotify, Amazon Cloud Player, internet radio. But it does also support your own library, and more units can be added to enable multiroom. 

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