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Pioneer BDP-51FD - Won't Play Star Wars!

Title says it all. I've installed the latest firmware (version 1.72), but makes no difference. It also has a real hard time playing the new LOTRs discs - I have to eject/insert about eight times before it plays. Has any one else got this problem? Any suggestions? May be I'm unlucky, but it seems ridiculous that a pioneer player can't play AAA titles.

 

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RE: Pioneer BDP-51FD - Won't Play Star Wars!

I watched star wars blu rays last week on my pioneer bdp320 and my firmware was 1.70. It worked fine. I have updated mine to 1.72 this morning. Are your other blu rays working ok?

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does that player have in-built memory ?  or does it use memory sticks ?  if sticks try a re-format

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All my olds ones are fine. New discs though are getting a bit harder. Often have to try loading several times for it to work. That's why I thought updating the firmware would help.

 

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Built in memory I guess - definelty not sticks. Have to burn firware to a CD to update.

 

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RE: Pioneer BDP-51FD - Won't Play Star Wars!

I've read elsewhere that there have been problems playing the Star Wars Blu-rays on all manner of BDPs, but reports tend to be of audio drop-outs rather than a complete inability to play the discs. There's been speculation that many of the problems are rooted in Fox's efforts to prevent piracy, leading to compatability problems with different players.

As a stop-gap, some users have manged a temporary fix by altering picture or audio output settings (for example, if you default to DTS rather than DTS HDMA, this apparently resolves issues with audio, though of course far from ideally). You might try changing a few settings on your BDP. I'd also try the discs on another player, as the fault may lie with the software rather than hardware. And you should also contact Pioneer to find out if other owners have reported issues and if there's a firmware update in the pipeline.

It's a pain, I know. You sit down down in anticipation of an enjoyable few hours viewing and instead end up tearing your hair out when things don't work. You'd think the Blu-ray format would be past such teething troubles now, but apparently not.

Hope you get it sorted.

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It's a pain, I know. You sit down down in anticipation of an enjoyable few hours viewing and instead end up tearing your hair out when things don't work. You'd think the Blu-ray format would be past such teething troubles now, but apparently not.

Think of it from the manufacturers point of view too - they produce a Bluray player that costs so much to develop, and that's just the beginning! They have to spend money constantly updating it because of the inability of the film companies to stick to the Bluray rules. I bet they cross their fingers and brace themselves upon every new release.

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

strapped for cash wrote:
It's a pain, I know. You sit down down in anticipation of an enjoyable few hours viewing and instead end up tearing your hair out when things don't work. You'd think the Blu-ray format would be past such teething troubles now, but apparently not.

Think of it from the manufacturers point of view too - they produce a Bluray player that costs so much to develop, and that's just the beginning! They have to spend money constantly updating it because of the inability of the film companies to stick to the Bluray rules. I bet they cross their fingers and brace themselves upon every new release.

Indeed, though I also wonder how conscious software producers and distributors are of compatability issues. Ultimately it's consumers that suffer most. As much as I love the Blu-ray format, and wouldn't go back to DVD for a second, it's had more than its fair share of glitches.

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Cheers. Will give it a try. All the discs work on my ps3 so not the end of the world. However, its a strange state of affairs when a games console can play discs but not a supposedly quality blu-ray player. Spoke to a very helpful guy at Pioneer. He took all my details and passed them to their tech team who will then revert next week. Remains to be seen if there are other owners in the same boat or I'm unlucky!

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

strapped for cash wrote:
It's a pain, I know. You sit down down in anticipation of an enjoyable few hours viewing and instead end up tearing your hair out when things don't work. You'd think the Blu-ray format would be past such teething troubles now, but apparently not.

Think of it from the manufacturers point of view too - they produce a Bluray player that costs so much to develop, and that's just the beginning! They have to spend money constantly updating it because of the inability of the film companies to stick to the Bluray rules. I bet they cross their fingers and brace themselves upon every new release.

And still the discs will not play from where you stop them, unlike DVDs.

You'd think they would get these problems sorted by now.:wall:

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Enough's enough.... the issue with incompatibility between players and discs has gone on far too long.

We have been patient long enough now with certain discs not playing on certain blu-ray players,awaiting firmware upgrades etc,parting with hard earned money on films we have purchased in their various guises numourous times before.

 

Don't recall having had these problems with DVD's since owning a player when they first entered the consumer market or the decade or more with the same Pioneer player watching them.

As usual there is going to be some argument on the forum defending the points i've made here but for me the time has come where these issues need to be addressed once and for all....SORT IT OUT!!!!! |(

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Same problem here, on same model.  Have had to redeploy old Panasonic player from bedroom to living room to be able to watch.  Really not good enough from Pioneer.

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jasonh wrote:

Don't recall having had these problems with DVD's since owning a player when they first entered the consumer market or the decade or more with the same Pioneer player watching them.

You may not recall them, but they certainly happened. In fact, I've had the complete opposite experience with Blu-ray i.e. I had several incompatibility issues with DVDs I purchased not playing on my flagship Denon DVD player but working fine on the cheap Toshiba in the spare room.

On the contrary, every Blu-ray I've purchased has worked on my Marantz player (including the new Star Wars discs).

I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong of course, just that different people have different experiences. I can well understand people wanting these things to just work (as I would were I to get an issue), but to reflect that DVD was perfect just isn't the case I'm afraid.

 

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Spot on. Even when I was editor of DVD Magazine (some 10-11 years ago!) there were still occasional 'rogue' discs. and that was 3-4 years after the format launched.

I particularly remember the fuss when The Matrix came out on DVD and caused a ton of compatibility problems.... The studios never learn, it seems Sad

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laserman16 wrote:

FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

strapped for cash wrote:
It's a pain, I know. You sit down down in anticipation of an enjoyable few hours viewing and instead end up tearing your hair out when things don't work. You'd think the Blu-ray format would be past such teething troubles now, but apparently not.

Think of it from the manufacturers point of view too - they produce a Bluray player that costs so much to develop, and that's just the beginning! They have to spend money constantly updating it because of the inability of the film companies to stick to the Bluray rules. I bet they cross their fingers and brace themselves upon every new release.

And still the discs will not play from where you stop them, unlike DVDs.

You'd think they would get these problems sorted by now.:wall:

Actually, the Star Wars discs do offer a resume function when stopped, even after ejecting and re-inserting them at a later time (or at least they do on my player).

 

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Clare Newsome wrote:

.... The studios never learn, it seems Sad

 

Fair point, I would include the software manufacturers in my earlier statement about the status quo not being good enough

 

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