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Hi Jevs,

 

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System update:

I have added an Apple TV to the system to be able to mirror the iPad screen on the TV and maybe occasionally rent a movie.

I found ATV to be excellent and easy to set up.

The whole of the system which now includes 9 devices is still controlled from a single remote and takes only one button press to set itself up for any activity. I absolutley love programmable remotes! Here are some new screenshots:

 

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I am currently using Benchmark dac1 hdr to ATC actives but I also have a mid range av receiver (Maratz sr5005) which has digital optical and coax inputs. Have not checked but they should be 24/96 capable so should be as good as the Benchmark.

I also have rca to xlr adapters so I am going to try connecting the mac mini to the receiver via optical (and apple tv is already connected via hdmi) and then pre outs to the ATCs and see if I can hear any difference.

As the Benchmark has dual outputs, I am using the rca ones to feed the sub but with the receiver I will have to use the sub out (and will need another set of rca to xlr adapters as the sub is xlr only).

Should be interesting. Any bets?

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I reckon they will both sound the same.

Hi-Fi - Epiphany Acoustics EHP-02Di > AVI DM5

Head-Fi - Epiphany Acoustics EHP-O2Di > Sennheisser HD700

Portable - Sony NWZ-A847 > Westone UM3x

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They should, according to the objective theory. 

In the past, I have tried to play a cd player via an optical in on a receiver ( a Teac 5.1 from abt 2002) and it sounded really bad - I was very surprised. Not that there was difference, but that it was so big, as if it was broken or decoding wrongly.

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Hi Almaataz,

Couple of questions,

Did you ever do an audition or anything of the B and W M1 computer speakers?

How are you finding the Genelecs after a few months?

What system do you listen to most in your house?

Many Thanks

 

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Sorry totally missed the page where you actually purchased the MM1's and loved them.  :oops: :read:

what about MM1's vs Genelecs?

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Um wrote:

Hi Almaataz,

Couple of questions,

Did you ever do an audition or anything of the B and W M1 computer speakers?

How are you finding the Genelecs after a few months?

What system do you listen to most in your house?

Many Thanks

 

Um

 

I find MM1s excellent. they do have boosted bass (possibly DSP-based variable loudness compensation) which I think is great for low level use which I have (bedroom). I am very happy with them.

The Genelecs are excellent, too. As they are white, they fit the decor well, the stands are great for mounting and they sound excellent. Perfect speakers when you need small ones.

As for which ones get most airtime -

-  the least time is the mm1s in the bedroom as we only have them on occasionally (slow weekend mornings mainly and sometimes briefly evenings).

- the next is the main system - again, mainly on during weekends or when I am alone I crank it up a little. We watch very little if any TV these days so this reduces the airtime on the main speakers too.

- the most often used is actually the kitchen system as we switch it on even before the morning coffee and as soon as we come back from work and switch it off only when we go to sleep or watch a movie. On weekends, it is not unusual to have both the main system and the kitchen system playing in sync for the whole day.

There is another system that consistently gets a lot of airtime - iphone + apple in-ears. as much as the main one, if not more.

I am 100% happy with all of the above systems. I think the only occasional trouble is the less than reliable remote app / library connection.

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AlmaataKZ wrote:

Um wrote:

Hi Almaataz,

Couple of questions,

Did you ever do an audition or anything of the B and W M1 computer speakers?

How are you finding the Genelecs after a few months?

What system do you listen to most in your house?

Many Thanks

 

Um

 

I find MM1s excellent. they do have boosted bass (possibly DSP-based variable loudness compensation) which I think is great for low level use which I have (bedroom). I am very happy with them.

The Genelecs are excellent, too. As they are white, they fit the decor well, the stands are great for mounting and they sound excellent. Perfect speakers when you need small ones.

As for which ones get most airtime -

-  the least time is the mm1s in the bedroom as we only have them on occasionally (slow weekend mornings mainly and sometimes briefly evenings).

- the next is the main system - again, mainly on during weekends or when I am alone I crank it up a little. We watch very little if any TV these days so this reduces the airtime on the main speakers too.

- the most often used is actually the kitchen system as we switch it on even before the morning coffee and as soon as we come back from work and switch it off only when we go to sleep or watch a movie. On weekends, it is not unusual to have both the main system and the kitchen system playing in sync for the whole day.

There is another system that consistently gets a lot of airtime - iphone + apple in-ears. as much as the main one, if not more.

I am 100% happy with all of the above systems. I think the only occasional trouble is the less than reliable remote app / library connection.

 

Thanks so much for the reply,

I went to listen to the MM1's today and they are very nice. Thing is though I tried the Monitor Audio WS100's whilst I was there and I choose them @ £250 and they are also excellent like the B and W's . I believe they are an active design.?

 

Um

 

 

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From the specs they do look like proper actives. Also a bit bigger than the MM1s (but I htink the woofer size is the same). So do they have slightly deeper bass?

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AlmaataKZ wrote:

From the specs they do look like proper actives. Also a bit bigger than the MM1s (but I htink the woofer size is the same). So do they have slightly deeper bass?

actually the bass is surprisingly full and deep. And yes bigger than the MM1's. I'm so impressed with the MA's .. Really good speakers

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Evolution of the bedroom system -

From this

 

to this

 

 

to the current one. Less boxes (Airport is blue-tacked to the back of the chest), great sound and easy control.

 

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Just looks great .... Minimal . I like

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I am currently using Benchmark dac1 hdr to ATC actives but I also have a mid range av receiver (Maratz sr5005) which has digital optical and coax inputs. Have not checked but they should be 24/96 capable so should be as good as the Benchmark.

I also have rca to xlr adapters so I am going to try connecting the mac mini to the receiver via optical (and apple tv is already connected via hdmi) and then pre outs to the ATCs and see if I can hear any difference.

As the Benchmark has dual outputs, I am using the rca ones to feed the sub but with the receiver I will have to use the sub out (and will need another set of rca to xlr adapters as the sub is xlr only).

Should be interesting. Any bets?

 

Finally tried it today. Connected the macmini to the receiver via optical, speakers front pre outs via rca-xlr cables and sub pre out to the sub via rca to rca-xlr adapter.
Run re-calibration. Play.
Sounds good, no issues with sound quality.

I noticed though that I could not achieve loudness levels as high as with the Benchmark. this is probably due to it having higher output levels on its xrl outputs compared to the receiver's rcas.

There were some issues, too:

- on one (classical very high dynamic range) track which plays on high vol setting there was some regular soft cracking kind of noise which is not there when played via Benchmark. I think this is either processing artefacts or just gain mismatch making them more audible

- this I cannot figure out: with bass setting on 'lfe+main' there is no (or nearly no) sound from the sub. With bass setting on 'lfe' the sub plays ok. It is not that it is cancelled out, the driver does not move. What this could be?

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I am starting to think over how my system can evolve. Although I do not plan any changes in the near future, in 2 to 4 years I may.

Currently, it is a 5.1 system with an AV receiver fed by a bluray player, combined via HT bypass with a 2.1 system based on a MacMini- DAC/pre - active stereo speakers.

Potential improvment areas:

Box count: So the system is overcomplicated  - the same functionality could be achived with less boxes. I have a separate dac/pre becasue it has XLR outs for the speaekers, while the receiver does not and using RCA outputs does not sound right (I think either due to earthing issues or level mismatch or both)..

Speaker: Apart from reducing the box count, I could do with using an active instead of a passive for the centre speaker.  

Computer: I may get a desktop mac one day so macmini will no longer be necessary so there is potential here to furhter reduce the box count

Possible upgrades:

If I replace the AV receiver with an AV pre, e.g. Marantz 8801, I gain XLR outs, interated airplay and integrated network switch as well as some other functionlaity. I can tehn get rid of several boxes - DAC/pre, macmini (as a source located onteh rack).  The AV pre would also feed the new active center, which would be ATC C3Ca.

Slight issue is if the rears are still passive, I would need to add a steero power amp (or say class D amp packs on the back of the rear speaekrs) or I have to replace the rears with actives, which increases cost.

A projector + roll-out screen (or a larger (4K?) TV) also potentially a future option.

What other improvements can I achieve?  

 

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