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I agree, I doubt there's any (audible) improvement in sound there... If I stay with PMC, the Fact.8 would be the way to go I guess...

OK, but going for the Fact 8 , you`ll be steering way from the very idea of monitors ( standmounts ) , and I thought this is what you`re considering , actually... Smile

 

Monitors can be both standmount and floorstanding, the distinction is their supposed design to be used for 'monitoring' in studios, usually utilising as flat a frequency response as possible. 

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Cno: :shame: I just bought the amp! I'm no longer playing with the roksan kit, but got a superuniti instead...

 

The fact.8 is actually the only floorstander I would consider, but it's quite expensive...

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Cno: :shame: I just bought the amp! I'm no longer playing with the roksan kit, but got a superuniti instead...

 

The fact.8 is actually the only floorstander I would consider, but it's quite expensive...

Sorry, I didn't fully pick that up. :oops:

How is your system sounding now (as in how has it improved things over the Roksan) and  what other amps/streamers did you consider?

I would give yourself time to get used to what you have atm, before making further big financial commitments on speakers.

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atanakata wrote:

Jumping Jack wrote:

I agree, I doubt there's any (audible) improvement in sound there... If I stay with PMC, the Fact.8 would be the way to go I guess...

OK, but going for the Fact 8 , you`ll be steering way from the very idea of monitors ( standmounts ) , and I thought this is what you`re considering , actually... Smile

 

 

Monitors can be both standmount and floorstanding, the distinction is their supposed design to be used for 'monitoring' in studios, usually utilising as flat a frequency response as possible.

That is a very fair point indeed, but looking at the speakers Jumping Jack is considering ( Harbeth 30.1, Kef Reference 201/2, Dynaudio C1, or maybe even the new Kef ls50  ) - they are all standmounts , and I thought he`s about to change the concept of his Set-Up altogether...

But thank you for that enlightening   Smile Feel free to do it again, whenever you like  :cheers:

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Sorry, I didn't fully pick that up. :oops:

How is your system sounding now (as in how has it improved things over the Roksan) and  what other amps/streamers did you consider?

I would give yourself time to get used to what you have atm, before making further big financial commitments on speakers.

 

That's alright.

The SuperUniti has even more control over the speakers than the Roksan amps (bi-amp setup with integrated M2 and M1 power amp)! And it's a bit more revealing and holographic too...

 

I don't have any urgent need in changing the speakers, it's just some sort of curiousity.

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@atanakata:

 

You're right, from an aesthetic-point-of-view, standmounts have my first attention. And the only upgrade within the PMC range, would be the Fact.8, I think. And thats quite easy on the eye too, so I'm not ruling them out Wink .

But as I said, I'm not planning any change already, just wondering...

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atanakata wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

atanakata wrote:

Jumping Jack wrote:

I agree, I doubt there's any (audible) improvement in sound there... If I stay with PMC, the Fact.8 would be the way to go I guess...

OK, but going for the Fact 8 , you`ll be steering way from the very idea of monitors ( standmounts ) , and I thought this is what you`re considering , actually... Smile

 

 

Monitors can be both standmount and floorstanding, the distinction is their supposed design to be used for 'monitoring' in studios, usually utilising as flat a frequency response as possible.

That is a very fair point indeed, but looking at the speakers Jumping Jack is considering ( Harbeth 30.1, Kef Reference 201/2, Dynaudio C1, or maybe even the new Kef ls50  ) - they are all standmounts , and I thought he`s about to change the concept of his Set-Up altogether...

But thank you for that enlightening   Smile Feel free to do it again, whenever you like  :cheers:

 

Smile It's something close to my attention, as I have ATC Studio Control Monitor 40s  Smile Which is what I would suggest to the OP, but I suspect they will fail his aesthetic test  Wink

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Smile  It's actually my wife's test. There's nothing wrong with the ATC's i.m.o., except they're a bit bulky... 

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atanakata wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

atanakata wrote:

Jumping Jack wrote:

I agree, I doubt there's any (audible) improvement in sound there... If I stay with PMC, the Fact.8 would be the way to go I guess...

OK, but going for the Fact 8 , you`ll be steering way from the very idea of monitors ( standmounts ) , and I thought this is what you`re considering , actually... Smile

 

 

Monitors can be both standmount and floorstanding, the distinction is their supposed design to be used for 'monitoring' in studios, usually utilising as flat a frequency response as possible.

That is a very fair point indeed, but looking at the speakers Jumping Jack is considering ( Harbeth 30.1, Kef Reference 201/2, Dynaudio C1, or maybe even the new Kef ls50  ) - they are all standmounts , and I thought he`s about to change the concept of his Set-Up altogether...

But thank you for that enlightening   Smile Feel free to do it again, whenever you like  :cheers:

 

Smile It's something close to my attention, as I have ATC Studio Control Monitor 40s  Smile Which is what I would suggest to the OP, but I suspect they will fail his aesthetic test  Wink

They ATC 40`s ( in black ) certainly wouldn`t fail my aesthetic test Smile 

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I have the opportunity to buy a pair of pre-used Kef Ref 201/2 (high gloss cherry), including stands, for 1400 GBP. One of the speakers has two small dents.... I'll try to audition them but any comments are welcome!

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Hi there again.

The 201/2s are superb speakers but will imo sound more direct and have less bass than your existing ones. They thrive on an amp that has lots of power/current.....I haven't heard them on the end of your Naim amp, but I suspect it should be OK....David (F.Harvey) is your man on that one.

Here they are discussed on another thread: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/kef-reference-2012-vs-kef-r-900

If you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

Cno

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Thanks Cno!

I asked David a while ago in the topic you're refering to and this was his answer:

 

"It'll drive them as long as you're not having any raves, but I've never really felt that the Naim amplification suits Reference. I feel they sound quite lean with Naim, as I've found that suitable amplification is needed to bring out the bass that the Reference range is capable of."

 

Well, I'm not having any raves and the SuperUniti has lots of control and power (it even surprised me when I was auditioning them).

Anyhow, I'll try to test them with my own amplifier this week so I'll keep you guys posted!

 

Kind regards.

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I would also listen to the R300s, which may surprise you with how good they sound for the money, and don't take as much current as the Refs, to get their juices flowing.

I would be interested in how you get on

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Change of plan Cno, as I've stumbled upon a pair of Fact.8 for an irrisistable price! So I'm trying to sell my fb's...

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Change of plan Cno, as I've stumbled upon a pair of Fact.8 for an irrisistable price! So I'm trying to sell my fb's...

Good man.

Have you heard the Fact 8s, as they are voiced a little differently......and please let us know how it all sounds when they are connected up.

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