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Yeah he has, it is 43 inches.

Having checked arty's own entries, no, he himself never actually said 43 inches. But CnoEvil confirms the size and that it is is not full HD.

Arty, you might want to read the article on page 31 of the current (January 2013) issue of What Hi-Fi. First Tests editor Andy Madden briefly discusses how soon OLED and 4K sets might appear, and it's not looking good for OLED..... And there is this blog by Mr Everard http://www.whathifi.com/blog/never-mind-%E2%80%93-2013-is-an-oel-new-year-hopefully , which can be accessed online under "Blogs".

Commercially available OLED sets ain't coming any time soon.

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Son_of_SJ wrote:

gel wrote:

Yeah he has, it is 43 inches.

Having checked arty's own entries, no, he himself never actually said 43 inches.

The model number is a big clue though...

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True, but I'm cautious and I like to check.

Can we get back to whether Arty should buy a new TV, and if so, which one?

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Son_of_SJ wrote:
Commercially available OLED sets ain't coming any time soon.

Except apparently they are coming soon now – as soon as the first three months of this year, according to LG. And when LG jumps, will Samsung be far behind?

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Andrew Everard wrote:

Son_of_SJ wrote:
Commercially available OLED sets ain't coming any time soon.

Except apparently they are coming soon now – as soon as the first three months of this year, according to LG. And when LG jumps, will Samsung be far behind?

Albeit at a serious premium. Affordable large screen OLED still seems several years away. In other words, LG's announcement shouldn't deter the OP from considering a plasma purchase for the moment.

It would also be dangerous to assume that OLED TVs launched in 2013 will be problem free and age well.

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as soon as the first three months of this year, according to LG. And when LG jumps, will Samsung be far behind?

I'll believe that when it happens, Mr Everard! And as strapped for cash says, at what price?

I still think that the OP should go ahead right now and buy any one of the five TVs that have been mentioned, all of which will offer many features over his existing elderly Pioneer. Even seeing the Freeview HD channels (which of course his Pioneer does not have) on a Full HD set will be a bit of a revelation - months after resurrecting my LG 60PZ950T in the kitchen, I'm still struck by how sharp all the Freeview HD channels are.

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The OLED TV is available to order from tomorrow in South Korea, which for me is proof enough on its availability. It'll probably be a couple of years before prices come down to sensible levels. I'm more interested in Samsung's mystery TV which will be revealed on Monday! Blum 3

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At least I sparked debate.......which was the idea.

Me.....I'd wait to see how things pan out!  :shifty:

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Son_of_SJ wrote:
I'll believe that when it happens, Mr Everard! And as strapped for cash says, at what price?

I still think that the OP should go ahead right now and buy any one of the five TVs that have been mentioned, all of which will offer many features over his existing elderly Pioneer. Even seeing the Freeview HD channels (which of course his Pioneer does not have) on a Full HD set will be a bit of a revelation - months after resurrecting my LG 60PZ950T in the kitchen, I'm still struck by how sharp all the Freeview HD channels are.

I didn't actually say the OP should hold off buying a plasma, or indeed any other set, because the KG OLED set is said to be coming, albeit at a UK price yeat to be confirmed. I only clarified my original blog suggestion that OLEDs may be some time off, in the light of LG's announcements today.

TBH if I were in the market for a new TV right now, plasma is still the way I personally would go – OLED (if it happens) can wait for a few years, allowing the technology to mature and become more commoditised before I spend the money.

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Really enjoying the debate, many thanks for the replies.

 

I take your point about affordable oled I will wait until the 2013 models are announced in the hope of grabbing a 2012 bargain ( assuming the bonus comes through in feb)

 

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Andrew Everard wrote:

Son_of_SJ wrote:
I'll believe that when it happens, Mr Everard! And as strapped for cash says, at what price?

I still think that the OP should go ahead right now and buy any one of the five TVs that have been mentioned, all of which will offer many features over his existing elderly Pioneer. Even seeing the Freeview HD channels (which of course his Pioneer does not have) on a Full HD set will be a bit of a revelation - months after resurrecting my LG 60PZ950T in the kitchen, I'm still struck by how sharp all the Freeview HD channels are.

I didn't actually say the OP should hold off buying a plasma, or indeed any other set, because the KG OLED set is said to be coming, albeit at a UK price yeat to be confirmed. I only clarified my original blog suggestion that OLEDs may be some time off, in the light of LG's announcements today.

TBH if I were in the market for a new TV right now, plasma is still the way I personally would go – OLED (if it happens) can wait for a few years, allowing the technology to mature and become more commoditised before I spend the money.

I didn't read your post as anything other than a useful link to an article on the imminent launch of an expensive LG TV.

The average life cycle of televisions (and indeed all AV hardware) is shortening ever more rapidly. As enthusiasts, we upgrade with greater frequency than most. I therefore agree that a plasma purchase seems a reasonable investment at the moment. OLED should be a better established and more affordable technology by the time we're ready to upgrade again. 

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arty wrote:

Really enjoying the debate, many thanks for the replies.

 

I take your point about affordable oled I will wait until the 2013 models are announced in the hope of grabbing a 2012 bargain ( assuming the bonus comes through in feb)

 

 

What sort of budget are you working on?  Because you can get John Lewis to price match other shops at good prices.

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Can someone explain to me the benefits of oled over plasma?

I hear a lot about waiting for oled, but from what I have seen from recent plasmas, the picture quality is moving towards perfection, so I don't really get how oled can be so superior. 

From what I can gather, there are doubts about the lifespan of oleds, and also, I'm sure I've heard it mentioned about blues being a problem.

Am I right? I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wide of the mark.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

Can someone explain to me the benefits of oled over plasma?

I suspect power usage will be a big one.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

Can someone explain to me the benefits of oled over plasma?

I hear a lot about waiting for oled, but from what I have seen from recent plasmas, the picture quality is moving towards perfection, so I don't really get how oled can be so superior. 

From what I can gather, there are doubts about the lifespan of oleds, and also, I'm sure I've heard it mentioned about blues being a problem.

Am I right? I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wide of the mark.

All your concerns are well placed. The main advantages of OLED over plasma, apart from power efficiency & TV size, is a much higher contrast ratio, & a wider gamut of colours.

Check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_Plasma,_and_OLED

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