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I had an LG55LX6500 3D LED TV. I was happy with the Tv except for a few bugs associated with LED and 3D TVs such as clouding due to the LED lighting and crosstalk associated with active 3D TVs. My place was broken into and my entire home theatre was stolen. Im in the process of replacing the TV. I know for a fact that there's no TV that will give you 100% but its a question of give and take according to what works for you. I am so against Plasma despite its advantages over LED. My biggest bug bear is the +-5 seconds of logo and other image rentetion problem though some people say it doesnt exist with new plasmas, believe me I see it with every set and it bothers me a lot. Another thing that bothers me is the grayish blacjs of plasma and the screen reflections. Samsung and LG have introduced their new range aof plasmas and LEDs recently which use active and passive glasses respectively. I am looking for a 55 inch and bigger and I would like to get some opinions from you guys. Please dont suggest any other brands except SOny, Samsung and LG as I have access only to these brands

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I want to also know if there is plasma in the ne ranges that address my plasma bug bears

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Another thing that bothers me is the grayish blacjs of plasma

 

Seriously?

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I dont understand what motivates your question

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That Plasma screens generally have blacker, deeper blacks than other screen technologies.

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I am very taken aback by that claim because LED has been hailed to have deeper blacks than plasma in paper and according to my observation. Some plasmas have lately introduced true black filters which are still cant give the blacks you find in LED.

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 Unfortunately it's the other way around LCD panel displays have long been trying to catch up with plasma, and is only just getting there.  Are you confusing LED backlit displays with OLED panels?  LED TVs are still LCD displays.

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I am very taken aback by that claim because LED has been hailed to have deeper blacks than plasma in paper and according to my observation. Some plasmas have lately introduced true black filters which are still cant give the blacks you find in LED.

Pioneer Kuro was hailed as producing deepest blacks amongst all TVs, until lately superceded by Panasonic VT series'. Both plasmas. LCDs & LED-lit LCD TVs are improving & still trying to catch up with plasmas in this regard.

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I tend to disagree regarding the black levels. I have seen Plasma vs LED side by side hundreds of times and LED showed better blacks than Plasma. I agree with you regarding LED/LCD playing catch up to plasma but that is mostly with regards to refresh rate where plasma is superior to LED/LCD.

Which plasma out there doesnt have logo retention Im asking because that bothers me a lot. I would go for that plasma if I can find it

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I am so against Plasma despite its advantages over LED. 

 

power wrote:

I would go for that plasma if I can find it

So which is it? Would you consider plasma or not?

 

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I have seen Plasma vs LED side by side hundreds of times and LED showed better blacks than Plasma.

In which case, surely any recommendation on here can't compare to your own experiences. Trust your eyes and demo different TVs, then choose whichever you think is best. You've already narrowed the market down to a certain size and three brands.

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You're wrong about the blacks, it's not a matter of debate. Image retention is also not something that only some people see, it either occurs or it doesn't. I've never had any image retention with my kuro plasma. 

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Lee H wrote:

power wrote:

I am so against Plasma despite its advantages over LED. 

 

power wrote:

I would go for that plasma if I can find it

So which is it? Would you consider plasma or not?

 

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I have seen Plasma vs LED side by side hundreds of times and LED showed better blacks than Plasma.

In which case, surely any recommendation on here can't compare to your own experiences. Trust your eyes and demo different TVs, then choose whichever you think is best. You've already narrowed the market down to a certain size and three brands.

 

That's good advice. You should have a very short demo list at that size, LCD, passive 3d. 

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IMHO, it's a two horse race at the moment.
The Samsung UE8000ES and the Panasonic VT50 series.

I went with the Sammy and despite a few small problens with crashing that are almost sorted with the new firmware, it's been superb.

Never been tempted by plasma, those things use many times the power of an LED set for a start!

 

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Never been tempted by plasma, those things use many times the power of an LED set for a start!

 

Yeah, but only when they're switched on  Wink

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I tend to disagree regarding the black levels. I have seen Plasma vs LED side by side hundreds of times and LED showed better blacks than Plasma. I agree with you regarding LED/LCD playing catch up to plasma but that is mostly with regards to refresh rate where plasma is superior to LED/LCD. Which plasma out there doesnt have logo retention Im asking because that bothers me a lot. I would go for that plasma if I can find it

Depends on which LED lit LCD TVs & plasma TVs you've seen, & in which conditions. The manufacturers themselves do not dispute that plasmas are known to have better blacks.

http://asia.cnet.com/3d-tvs-led-vs-plasma-update-62209042.htm

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Lee H]</p> <p>[quote=power wrote:

I am so against Plasma despite its advantages over LED. 

In my post I stated clearly my reasons for not liking plasma its not just I dont like it for no reason. I have demoed sammy, LG and panasonic and they do have transient logo retention. I hve seen old sets in friends' hiuses that still have the problem despite prolonged use.

 

 

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