Once I had installed the remarkable TQ Greens, the KEF LS50's were beautiful even with a far inferior amp than the Rega Brio-R. I listen to classical music, mostly song, and i do not demand a huge sound. For how I play it, the Rega Brior-R with the KEF LS50's is just stunning in both tone and clarity, bass and soprano, quiet and "loud" (10 o'clock on the amp dial). The upgrade to the superior mains chords really helped overall sound result. The KEF's do seem to respond to hardware changes. I don't claim my "economy" setup is ultimate - just that it works beautifully for me, with my music sources, and in my smallish living room.
If I were to some spare serious money, I would definitely upgrade to the Rega Osirus integrated amp, the Rega Isis CD player, and the TQ Ultra Black speaker cable. That would be some system!
But I am nevertheless utterly in love with the system as it is now! In so many ways it is revelatory. Every music source gives me so many new discoveries and new happiness.
I have my hifi shop manager to thank in steering me towards the Rega Brior-R and Apollo-R (I already had the KEF LS50's, and I described my musical needs and my budget - I agreed to double it!). He was spot on.
Rega Brio-R integrated amp, Rega Apollo-R cd player, Tellurium Q Green speaker cables, Tellurium Q Black interconnects, Rega Isis/Osiris mains power cables, KEF LS50 speakers.
It's probably a long way off, but imo you shouldn't get tunnel vision. I heard the Osirus / Isis and was left underwhelmed for the money..........just make sure there are other brands in the mix. Then if the Rega wins out, it deserves to.
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I heard these speakers at the Bristol Hi Fi show & thought they sounded boxy & bass shy - 99.9% of the postings I`ve read on here say they are superb so perhaps it was the room they were in & would fair better in my 5m x 3m (placed along the long length) furnished bedroom attic ?
When you have to consider adding stands is there a similarly priced floorstander that has the same qualities, can equal, better them ?
Would they go well with the Naim Unitilite ?
How would they compare with the PMC DB1i, Tannoy Rev Sig DC6 ?
So many questions I should audition them.
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Doubt it, I heard them there as well and thought they sounded extraordinary.
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Hi, is it possible to compare LS50 to Q700, what would be the main differences (advantages, disatvantages of both)?
I've heard the in direct comparisom, buthow confused I am!... the listening room wasn't perfect, and I just cannot make a clear opinion about them, the view of anybode else would be helpful:)
If you couldn't separate them by listening, then why not choose the one you like the look of the most or the cheapest?
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I could separate them:) but both had some stronger and weaker points - I suppose it was influenced by the listening room a lot. Im just wondering how others think of each of them. And both were a new pieces, running for a few hours.
You are the one that is going to live with one or the other of these speakers and you are the one who has listened to them both, back to back. Do not let others sway your choice.
What do you think?
Did you hear both of them on the same amplifier that you own and will use? If not, which amplifier was used for the comparison, and which amplifier do you own?
David @Frank Harvey Hi-Fi, Coventry
Plenty of comments in this thread and elsewhere about the LS50s.
Perhaps it would pay to listen to some other makes to give you some perspective - Neat, Dali, B&W, Spendor Dynaudio all have a slightly different way of presenting the music. The other thing to try is to see if you can borrow them for a home loan.
I see your point, you're right. To be honest I'm a novice, and quite in doubt between these two. Surely there are more experience people here who are familiar both eith Q700 and LS50, heard them much longer time than me, and have a clear opinion about their qualities (and bad sides) - such opinion would help me . My experience with these two is 2 hours, huess its very little time to make qualified decision.
@ David, I heard them in a Hi-Fi shop, but in a quite large (poorly designd for audio listening) room. Both speakers were connected to Cambridge Audio 651A amp, and Cambridge audio Cd player (cannot remember the exact model, but it was sme price level as the amp). I just switched the A/B source during listening the songs form Q700 to LS50 - so the comparison was fairly direct. I took a chance to listen to KEFs because its quite complicated in my region to listen to speakers, and listened even to Q300, but these did not impressed me at all (especially with direct comparison to Q700). I still believe that it was not the problem of amplifier, or CD player, but the problem of the listening room and slight noice from street, but my first impression of Q300 was ("hell, my 10 years old Philips micro system for 200€ sound better with the same CD!"). So I was offered to replace Q300 for LS50 and compare these to Q700. LS50 was a significant improvement over Q300 form me, but stil the sound in that particular room did not let me immerse into the music as expected, it was not so detailed, deep, real... even though I believe these speakers can play musc this way (hopefully?). Q700 sounded more adult, more sure, but as stated in post below a bit "too forward" and Im a bit affraid how such floorstanders would sound in my living room (5x4m - speakers need to be placed at the longer wall in almost corners). Im a bit affraid that Q700 are too much for such room (Im not sure with their bass), and perhaps LS50 too little (?) I definitelly cannot listen LS50 from ideal 2m distance, it will be at least 3m having speakers 4-4.5m from each other.... whats your opinion?
Thank for opinion! "rather too forward to my liking" is exactly my feeling of these speakers:) What room did you listened them in? What is the soundstage, imaging with these speakers? I'd love to borrow them and listen at home, byt that's not possible.
Concerning B&W, I listened to some of smaller BWs but did not convince me...on the other hand I had a chance to listen to the top range of BW (802 D2) fed with same level amp and player - could not listen it aloud, just at low volume, but it was jaw dropping, terrific sound! So much of everything, but for me the most exiting was the ability to absolutely precisely distinguish each single instrument in music and its exact position-unbelievable!
Anyone tried the LS50's with the Roksan K2 amplifier?
Ideally, the two speakers and you should forum an equilateral triangle (ie, not be further apart than you are from them). If any speaker can pull off being further apart, it will be the KEFs due to their excellent imaging, but overall, I wouldn't recommend it.
The Q Series doesn't have the refinement or the build quality of the LS50's, so they will suffer in comparison. Higher frequencies won't be as smooth, and in comparison might be a little 'edgy'. Bass won't be as tight and controlled, and as a result, may sound warmer and fuller to most people. Midrange won't be as open and detailed either. In isolation though, the Q300 and Q700 are the star pupils of the range for me, followed by the Q900. I find the Q100 and Q500 a little bass light/thin, but they're ideal for those with small rooms who want to use them closer to walls. For me, the LS50 is a sub £1k taster for what the Reference range sounds like.
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the CA amp, so I can't say whether it is up to the job of getting the best from the LS50's or not. The Q Series is a nice easy load, so I would assume it can cope with the Q700's just fine, but the LS50 is a little more demanding of the accompanying amplifier, and will reward you with a mediocre sound if it isn't, even if you will be able to hear some of the natural differences between the speakers.
It is a shame that you feel the room is limiting your research. Yes, a room can 'favour' some speakers over others, whether that be floorstanders over standmounts, large speakers over small, etc etc and vice versa. Do they have another room you can try them in? Or even if they can shift the system through 90 degrees and fire the system across the room rather than down it, just to see if this helps. The dealer's demo room should allow you to compare speakers in the same environment, but obviously, your room could be quite different for many reasons, whichever speaker you feel sounds better in the dealer's room, see if you can take them home to try out in yours. If you can then hear the differences you room makes to the sound you heard in the dealer's room, you should be able to make a rough guess of how the other speaker will sound, and whether it might be more or less suitable.
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