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RE: CD Player or Streaming?

Cd player for better sound up grade your player with tri chord clock and power supply. If you win the lottory naim hdx its a ndx cdx2 server stream ripper in one but £4500 i got ex demo 1tb for £2800 and paid in instalments took me a year but down to the dealer that was over 3yrs ago just paid £250 for 2tb upgrade and got extended warrenty. As for sound its bloody awsome worth every penny evern at full price. Ask your dealer for options of payment i started paying before hdx became avilble as exdemo so when one came avilable already had deposit.

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Hi Peterpan ,

The CD era is far from it's end , and even if it was the 2nd hand market will still go on for decades , hell you can buy recondtioned discs in Morrisons for about 2 quid each , they look as good as new , I bought 4 discs last week for 7 quid .

As for how long it takes to rip a CD lossless to itunes , in theory 10 mins , in practice 15 seconds a disc of your time , I've ripped 5 while reading this forum this afternoon , put the disc in click on the right version , wait for the tinkle , eject and feed the next one in . You just do it all in the background , I've ripped over 500 cds in the last 3 weeks Smile

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Do/use both.

Rip your existing cd collection to a good media player (I use dBpoweramp and MusicBee) but keep a cd player (or DVD drive).

Streamers are getting cheaper and you could even just hardwire your laptop/pc to your amplifier thus utilizing your ripped collection, internet radio etc.

Not the most elegant solution but it works just as well.

I would certainly not give up cd's

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Up until recently i hadnt owned a cd player in years having gone down the ipod/computer to hifi route completely.

I have around 500 cds which were gathering dust in the garage until i decided to try one through my Panasonic Blu Ray (i had read the model i have is great with cd's) I was immediately knocked out by the sweet sweet sound of the cd through the aforementioned bluray into my Nad MA BX2 combo....mmmm. Got me thinking so i bought a Nad CD player for a steal on ebay and it was even better  - my cd's are now gradually moving back into the house - much to my Wife's disgust!!! However at the same time my new Marantz M-CR510 arrived which, through cheap but lovely Boston Acoustics A25's sounds amazing with whatever i throw at it. I feel now i have the best of both worlds and a use for my cd's which i was loathe to sell (not that cds are worth anything) I have also started to buy cd's again......

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I continue to buy many CDs, but since I suspect that my CD player is acting up my decision has been cemented to never buy another CD player again, my next purchase will be a streamer of sorts, non-PC though. I'm waiting for Marantz's replacement of the NA7004, or I'll wait for their next version of their slimline AV amps.

I've already started ripping my CDs, and with my new laptop and EAC it's sounding great.

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The primary source in my main system is a Turtle Beach Audiotron streamer (a few years old now and one of the first, but it has the advantage of not requiring any software on whatever's sharing the files). All music is stored on a 400GB RAID file system on a *nix box, shared out by Samba.

The Audiotron feeds an Arcam AVR360 which is driving a set of Monitor Audio RX6s (with RX Centre and RXFXs for 7.1 surround material). Yes, I'm aware that the Arcam has on-board streaming, but this uses DLNA which needs server-side software, the user interface needs the TV on to work properly, etc etc. The Audiotron is just nicer to use, and an SPDIF connection to the Arcam sounds just as good as the internal streamer. (I previously had an AVR250, hence the Audiotron.)

If I want to play a CD on this system I can either stick it in the Blu-Ray player (Denon DBT-1713) or the CD recorder (Sony RCD-W100), both of which are connected digitally to the AV receiver (HDMI for the BD player and SPDIF for the CD recorder).

The second system has the digital out from the PC hooked to an Audio Alchemy DAC-in-the-box, feeding a Yamaha DSP-A592 amplifier running in 2-channel mode and driving a set of Mission 760iSE speakers. No CD player exists in this system, although technically I could play an audio CD in the CD-ROM drive and send the output to the SPDIF. (The analogue out on the PC drives a pair of Altec Lansing PC speakers for the system sounds only - Winamp routes to the SPDIF.)

As for the FLAC v MP3 argument, I won't go into that here any more than to say that I use MP3 almost exclusively, but at very high bitrates with a particular set of options to LAME, which at worst will be indistinguishable from the original WAV or FLAC (on top-notch equipment), and may even sound better (on cheaper equipment, by removing inaudible signals it actually lowers the noise floor of the recording, meaning that a cheaper amplifier won't be wasting power amplifying a signal that you can't hear at the expense of what you can hear).

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i use both in a sence, all my music is on my macbook pro which is connected to my leema dac, if i feel the need to play a cd i use my pioneer BDP-LA70A blu-ray player as a transport and link it through my leema dac, although now this is happening less and less and im mainly listening to the macbook.

saying that i am buying more and more cds and ripping them as they are getting cheaper and cheaper then boxing them up and storing them.

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MadSquirrel wrote:

 

As for the FLAC v MP3 argument, I won't go into that here any more than to say that I use MP3 almost exclusively, but at very high bitrates with a particular set of options to LAME, which at worst will be indistinguishable from the original WAV or FLAC (on top-notch equipment), and may even sound better (on cheaper equipment, by removing inaudible signals it actually lowers the noise floor of the recording, meaning that a cheaper amplifier won't be wasting power amplifying a signal that you can't hear at the expense of what you can hear).

I agree to an extend. I can (and sometimes do) happily listen to 320kb Ogg Vorbis Spotify Premium for hours and am very happy with what I hear.

However, when it comes to ripping a cd collection, I still think Flac makes most sense as a true lossless copy. Storage space is cheap these days and it is easy to batch convert from Flac to another format if and when needed.

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drummerman wrote:

However, when it comes to ripping a cd collection, I still think Flac makes most sense as a true lossless copy. Storage space is cheap these days and it is easy to batch convert from Flac to another format if and when needed.

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+1. Though in my case Apple Lossless.

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MajorFubar wrote:

drummerman wrote:

However, when it comes to ripping a cd collection, I still think Flac makes most sense as a true lossless copy. Storage space is cheap these days and it is easy to batch convert from Flac to another format if and when needed.

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+1. Though in my case Apple Lossless.

+1 apple lossless.

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With streaming i will go for the best quality. Till now i think it is Flac. At the moment i don't know which is the best for me; a streamer with harddisk like the new Sony or a streamer like the Pioneer N50 with a NAS server.

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One benefit of having a NAS-based streamer is that multiple devices can access your music collection easily. Also backing-up your collection to a second drive is also very easy. One serious drawback of the Sony HAP-Z1ES, were I seriously in the market for a £2k streamer, is that it won't stream from a NAS drive.

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MajorFubar wrote:

One benefit of having a NAS-based streamer is that multiple devices can access your music collection easily. Also backing-up your collection to a second drive is also very easy. One serious drawback of the Sony HAP-Z1ES, were I seriously in the market for a £2k streamer, is that it won't stream from a NAS drive.

From what I gleaned is Sony did this deliberately, thinking network streaming is too complicated. And anyway, Naim also have the HDX drive-based player at twice the price. This certainly fills a niche out there. Some buyers themselves don't want the complication of network streaming or multi-room capability.

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True enough, and of course it depends what you envisage you'll want from your system. But it's just worth bearing in mind that if you opt for something with a 'closed ecosystem' that you're a bit knackered if you later decide you want to expand.

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MajorFubar wrote:

True enough, and of course it depends what you envisage you'll want from your system. But it's just worth bearing in mind that if you opt for something with a 'closed ecosystem' that you're a bit knackered if you later decide you want to expand.

If Carlsberg made streamers then it would look like the Sony with an included screen, HDD and amp, offer wireless DLNA server / renderer capability, borrow the Cyrus Lyric apt-x Bluetooth and DAB, and offer the HDMI inputs of a Linn Sneaky. And you could plug a CD player into it if you really had to Smile

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