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RE: Best Songs to Test Speakers

Hey,

 

I have my selection of song's an cd's that I take with me the last 3 months, On my quest to find a new amp to match my 683's but also to match the future upgrade of speakers (provably in 3years).

Anyway one of the dealer's I have visited during this quest Let me use my cd's but on the end of the demo he asked me if I could come back but next time he will use cd's I don't know.

He says it's the best way to determine which speakers fit's me the best.

Personally I'm not shore about that, but as I have a curious nature and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt I will go do the experience.

 

What's your opinion about this statement?

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I like "Air - La Femme D'Argent" ... its got a good frequency range with low bass and sweeping highs.  As its been said before, you need to be very familiar with the track so you can tell if bits are missing, or you notice bits you didn't before.

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A good radio broadcast/recording with spoken voice

 

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RE: Best Songs to Test Speakers

Roby wrote:
I have my selection of song's an cd's that I take with me the last 3 months, On my quest to find a new amp to match my 683's but also to match the future upgrade of speakers (provably in 3years).

Anyway one of the dealer's I have visited during this quest Let me use my cd's but on the end of the demo he asked me if I could come back but next time he will use cd's I don't know.

He says it's the best way to determine which speakers fit's me the best.

Personally I'm not shore about that, but as I have a curious nature and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt I will go do the experience.

What's your opinion about this statement?

I think what he means is, "I'm desperate to get rid of this particular range, so I'll play you some stuff that sounds good on them, in the hope you'll buy them even though they sound rubbish with the music you actually listen to."

I'd go elsewhere. What's the point of testing speakers with music you never listen to?

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Counting Crows – Good Time

Great use of stereo image, with acoustic, electric, guitar solo, banjo, keyboards etc. making an ideal test track - try it! Smile

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Have a go with some of the tracks from Bassic, such as: On The Horizon, Rain, Tranquility Bass II, E.I., and Pacifica.

Phenomenal bass, bags of detail, separation etc etc

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Roby wrote:
I have my selection of song's an cd's that I take with me the last 3 months, On my quest to find a new amp to match my 683's but also to match the future upgrade of speakers (provably in 3years).

Anyway one of the dealer's I have visited during this quest Let me use my cd's but on the end of the demo he asked me if I could come back but next time he will use cd's I don't know.

He says it's the best way to determine which speakers fit's me the best.

Personally I'm not shore about that, but as I have a curious nature and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt I will go do the experience.

What's your opinion about this statement?

I think what he means is, "I'm desperate to get rid of this particular range, so I'll play you some stuff that sounds good on them, in the hope you'll buy them even though they sound rubbish with the music you actually listen to."

I'd go elsewhere. What's the point of testing speakers with music you never listen to?

There is another way of looking at it.

I often find that when my hi-fi is really working well for me with the music I know inside out, I also find it much easier to appreciate new music, even if it is the sort of thing I wouldn't normally listen to.  Maybe this si where the sales guy is coming from?

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drummerman wrote:
A good radio broadcast/recording with spoken voice

regards

I second that.

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Beck - Chemtrails

Rampant charging pop tune with low funky bass lines, crashing high hats and recessed vocal.

Rather grey background with constricted stereo image.

If the right system will be airy, atmosphecic and textured in the wrong system will be a congested mess.

 

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chebby wrote:

drummerman wrote:
A good radio broadcast/recording with spoken voice

regards

I second that.

 

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That make sense Wink

Bu I also have to clarify a thing. I was testing some speakers Some Audiophisics Scorpio against BW 804 An oké maybe It's not a fair comparasion because there is a 200€ price difference. But even if my preference was always pulling me back to the 804's With a more closer listening.

The Scorpio's where quite enjoyable on some tracks an parts certainly with live tracks. This I think because of the side woofers on both side of the speakers. Witch I think will also make the positioning really picky...

Reason I was pulled back to the 804's, is because when listening to a complete track on the AP I often found them to bright an uncontrolled bass, missing that touch of maturity I find in the 804's

So bottom line is: because the way the AP excels on some parts I was asking myself the question do I actually prefer the BW because I’m so used to the BW sound?

The dealer in question is not my usual dealer, But he said the only way to break to that supposable routine is to demo several speakers with tracks I don’t know.

(On the other hand we all have songs we know by hard an actually we also unconsciously looking for the way we want them to sound. There is no right or wrong here an it doesn’t mean different is bad. An I certainly don't think the different brand we all mention make bad speakers, It might just not match your ears an feelings)

Beside I might discover new music an artist’s I like during that demo.

Witch already happened to me during some unexpected demo's at my normal dealer an that's always cool :bounce:

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I usually let the salesman run a couple of songs that he thinks bring out the equipment's strengths. For me that's also a way to discover new artists (recently The Pineapple Thief and Nathalie Merchant).

But I also have a couple of standard test tracks:

Gare du Nord - Chet's Chat (close-miked trumpet, deep voice)

Wende - Break My Heart (warm voice, acoustic guitar)

Alan Parsons - Silence And I (orchestral layers, bass hits)

Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize (drums, guitar drive, sibilant voice)

Marillion - Living With The Big Lie (recording on the edge)

Yellowjackets - The Spin (complex bass lines)

I wouldn't focus on range too much. Too many speakers I've heard have excellent high and low extension but lack midrange detail. And finally, as many have already mentioned, take recordings that you know inside-out. You'll more easily spot differences if you know how something "should" sound.

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It is necessary to put the speakers in the right position if you want to have good soundstaging. 

The following CD is a good tool for this purpose:

http://www.isoteksystems.com/cgi-bin/products.pl?id=35

 

The few songs in this CD are also well recorded and is very useful to test the performance of your speakers.

I own one already  Smile

 

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For testing drive, pace and dynamics there's one song that 95% of systems fail on and that's Young Man Blues on The Who's Live at Leeds.  It should sound like your at the front row of the concert and the drums should whack you in the chest.

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As Gregory states in post#2, you should try stuff you're familiar with. It is good to try a choice number of tracks that sound amazing, but lesser recorded material will tell you more about a system. Some stuff might sound quite muddled and ill defined on a budget system, but play it on a more capable system, and you're suddenly treated to an open soundstage where each instrument has its own space and can be followed regardless of how complex the music. It is tricky finding this sort of stuff as you have to have heard it on both types of systems, but I find Neil Finn's Try Whistling This is one of them. I've also found Kate Bush's voice is very dependant on the system it's played on - not my cup of tea, but her fans out there should know what I'm talking about.

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