How to buy second-hand and vintage hi-fi amplifiers

How to buy second-hand and vintage hi-fi amplifiers
(Image credit: Future)

New amplifiers are great. We test them all the time, and think the very best amplifiers represent excellent value for money. It doesn’t matter whether you’re looking at a starter amplifier or a powerhouse that costs the same as a new car, there are some brilliant performers that will shine in the right system.

But then we take a look at the prices of second-hand amplifiers and get seriously tempted. There are some absolute bargains out there, and provided you do your research you can pick up a top performer for far less money than a new model.

You can expect to save around 30% on a product that’s a year old and that raises to around 50% for something that’s closer to three years old. Once products get older than that, the price charged is determined by demand and condition as much as anything else. Have a good look around at similar products to get an idea of the price you should be paying. In the end, something is only worth whatever someone will pay for it. Don’t be shy about haggling either.

Making the right choice

Does the amplifier have all the features you want?

Does the amplifier have all the features you want? (Image credit: Future)

Second-hand amplifiers have become increasingly popular as people look to buy revered products from the likes of McIntosh, Quad and Yamaha, and vintage valve amplifiers. But what if you've not got something specific in mind?

In an ideal world you should never buy something without hearing it. Just because you find something for sale at a good discount that doesn’t make it a good buy. Start with the basics. Does the amplifier have all the features you need? There’s no point in buying a purist unit such as a Cyrus Two if you need something with tone controls and a remote.  

Equally, will the amplifier fit into your system? If you have insensitive speakers can it drive them comfortably? In most cases an amplifier with an output of around 50-watts per channel will work just fine, unless you have a very large room or like to listen at high volume levels. Let’s not forget the biggest question of all, do you like the way it sounds? 

The buying process

It's worth replacing the capacitors on an amplifier that's decades old

It's worth replacing the capacitors on an amplifier that's decades old (Image credit: Future)

If you’re buying new, the solution to the last question is simple. Just go to a dealer and have a listen, ideally with your speakers or at least something similar. This way you’ll get a good idea whether the sonic character appeals. Unless you’re buying the second-hand unit from a shop, this isn’t really an option. In such cases you’ll have to lean heavily on reviews and then hope for the best. It’s a major downside of buying second hand.

Even if you can have a listen with a private seller, it would be very hard to decide whether the sound is right for you. The seller is likely to have totally different gear, possibly kit you’ve never heard, and that makes the task of isolating the character of the amplifier pretty hard. The most you can get out of such a situation is to check whether the amplifier works properly.

Can it be serviced?

If the amplifier isn't supported by the manufacturer, walk away

If the amplifier isn't supported by the manufacturer, walk away (Image credit: Future)

Other than sound quality, you can get a good idea of condition when auditioning the amplifier. Check the casework for scratches and other damage. It’s also worth trying every button to check they work properly. Such things may prove hard and expensive to repair in the long run.

Listen out for any unexpected noises when you work the volume, tone and balance controls, as well as any switches. This would point to dirt getting into the mechanism. Other than that, amplifiers tend to be tough things that can last for decades if cared for properly.

If you're looking at a vintage amplifier that’s old enough to vote then it’s worth contacting the manufacturer to see if they can still service it. All good specialist brands should be able to do this. 

Depending on the unit’s age you may be looking at replacing all the capacitors in the circuit, and this could prove expensive. But it’s worth doing to optimise reliability and performance, particularly if you intend to use the product for a while. Other internal components will tend to have far longer lives and aren’t worth worrying about. 

If the manufacturer no longer supports the product, then it might be worth considering walking away and buying something made by a company that does.

If you’re buying a second-hand amplifier online, check whether the seller has the original packaging. This way the product is less likely to get damaged when shipped. Also, ask the seller plenty of questions about the product, it’s condition and the reason they’re selling it. 

Ask for extra pictures if the ones shown aren’t clear enough. It may be worth finding out about the rest of the person’s system – if they care enough about assembling a good system the chances are that they’ve taken care of the product. 

If the seller is a dealer then ask about warranty and returns policies, just in case things don’t work out. Buy privately and you’re likely to get a better price but not the safety net.

Take all these things into account and the chances are that you’ll get the right product at a good price price. Happy hunting!

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Ketan Bharadia
Technical Editor

Ketan Bharadia is the Technical Editor of What Hi-Fi? He's been been reviewing hi-fi, TV and home cinema equipment for over two decades, and over that time has covered thousands of products. Ketan works across the What Hi-Fi? brand including the website and magazine. His background is based in electronic and mechanical engineering.

  • Hifiman
    I still use one of the first Mission Cyrus Ones from 1984 and, even by today’s standards, it performs wonderfully well and, of course, has a phono stage built in. Not bad for something that cost £129 new. I doubt I will ever bring myself to sell it second hand but if you get a chance to buy a good example then you are unlikely to be disappointed.
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  • djh1697
    "I still use one of the first Mission Cyrus Ones from 1984 and, even by today’s standards, it performs wonderfully well and, of course, has a phono stage built in."

    I too had an original Cyrus One from 1984, with a very low serial number, I think it was 79, the CD input was harsh. The phono stage was absolutely wonderful though. Indeed, I used the tape output to feed a Naim 5i, so I could listen to my LP's in the meantime . My turntable is a Pink Triangle 1, Rega RB300, Elys2 cartridge. I had some upgrades to the arm, a Mitchell Technoweight, and an AO rewire. This was put together by the LP12 expert Peter of #Cymbiosis fame.

    The plastic case of the original Cyrus was an issue, but I could live with that.

    When I got the "upgrade bug" I tried the Rega phono stage, still, the Cyrus phono stage was superior.

    Further upgrades saw the Naim 5i, still using the Cyrus 1 as a phono stage, changing into a 112x/150/Flatcap/Stageline offered an upgrade. The stageline now sells for £469, although it was far less when I got it circa 15 years ago. The Cyrus 1 sadly moved home at that stage.

    My Pink Triangle, now almost 40 years old, still has pride of place. my other source is digital March DAC1 as Roon endpoint.

    My amplification is a Naim 200/202/Stageline the preamp is powered by a TeddyPardo Teddycap. Speakers are Kudos x3's, with Kudos KS1 cable. My power supply and Naim 200 use Titan STYX mains cables. I am very happy with my system, and realise that it would cost me a lot of money to upgrade, something I am sadly lacking at the moment.

    The Cyrus 1 was my best sounding amplifier for many years, I tried a Pioneer A400 for a while, which was sadly lacking compared to the Cyrus 1. The £129 price point was increased soon after launch as I recall
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