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I remember Sony did one or two top-rangers with leather but this was very very long ago. There are definately some now e.g. B&w with leather and others but they tend to be 'lifestyle' products while I am after a long-lasting uncompromised full-size ones.

The only one I can think of is Denon top model I think (it also has wooden cups?). Edit: I do not see this model on their site any more. Maybe it has been discontinued. 

Maybe pro models?

Yes the old Denon models have been discontinued, the one you are thinking of is the Denon AH-D7000. I love mine but I think I read somewhere that its not real leather. What about the Audeze LCD-2, I think that's real leather and the sound is supposed to be amazing.
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The Philips L1 gets pretty close to this description except for the bass I think. If you could use a high quality equalizer and just trim off the bass a little the sound is quite neutral, and the physicals are there.

Or, if the new Philips X1 extends everything the L1 does, it might be an even better bet.

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Looking at L1 the spec say nothing about the response being flat or sound being neutral. It says it is tuned but does not say in what way - typical meaningless marketing speak unfortunately. Also it does not say the pads are leather. It says leather is used but it may be on the headband, how do I know. The specs are amasingly undescriptive although full of superlative words. Build quality seems good from pics. Would be good to see and try for real.

X1 not listed on philips site?

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I've seen the L1 in John Lewis stores for playing with. Seems like your best best.

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I've seen the L1 in John Lewis stores for playing with. Seems like your best best.

Oh, that's very good, will try. Thanks!

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AlmaataKZ wrote:

I remember Sony did one or two top-rangers with leather but this was very very long ago. There are definately some now e.g. B&w with leather and others but they tend to be 'lifestyle' products while I am after a long-lasting uncompromised full-size ones.

The only one I can think of is Denon top model I think (it also has wooden cups?). Edit: I do not see this model on their site any more. Maybe it has been discontinued. 

Maybe pro models?

Yes the old Denon models have been discontinued, the one you are thinking of is the Denon AH-D7000. I love mine but I think I read somewhere that its not real leather. What about the Audeze LCD-2, I think that's real leather and the sound is supposed to be amazing.

Thanks, the audeze looks great indeed, definately quality headphones. I have actually tried them at the Munich show - very comfortable, heavy. The sound was good but Sennheisers were better to my taste.

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Apologies to idc for thread hijack.

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Looking at L1 the spec say nothing about the response being flat or sound being neutral. It says it is tuned but does not say in what way - typical meaningless marketing speak unfortunately. Also it does not say the pads are leather. It says leather is used but it may be on the headband, how do I know. The specs are amasingly undescriptive although full of superlative words. Build quality seems good from pics. Would be good to see and try for real. X1 not listed on philips site?

I've been using the L1 for several months with a modicum of bass reduction, with which it sits near the top of my fidelity and neutrality list, with great sound top to bottom.. Played flat that does not apply. But for the price, the simple EQ, the leather pads and headband - a fantastic bargain. And looks extremely durable, not to mention the rugged attractiveness. I expect the X1 to be a real killer, but no guarantees of course.

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Apologies to idc for thread hijack.

 

I am sure AKG have never used leather pads. One brand which did, though they were notorious for perishing was B&O. I am still looking for one of these to add to my collection, the U70

 

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Is rumermounger a word? It is now.....or am I rumourmongering? (Sorry....)

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1) Where style is more important than substance.

- Targeted at the majority of customers who are perfectly happy with 128 & 256 kbps mp3 songs.

Sweeping generalisations abound there then......surprised you haven't realised they never have them on, just an accessory round the neck!  Smile Nothing wrong with 256 Kbps anyway. 

 

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AKG scored big with the 550 judging by Headfonia's review and the 218 comments posted. That particular site and comment count are very telling I think, since unlike some sites that build thousands of postings about an item before the item is released or reviewed, Headfonia's is right to the point. If the fit is improved with the 551 I might buy it.

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I remember being quite peed off when the Q701’s came out.

There were prices being quoted at £499 RRP at launch for the pleasure of a sickly lime green colour with a celebrity endorsement.

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AKG scored big with the 550 judging by Headfonia's review and the 218 comments posted. That particular site and comment count are very telling I think, since unlike some sites that build thousands of postings about an item before the item is released or reviewed, Headfonia's is right to the point. If the fit is improved with the 551 I might buy it.

I bought mine based partially on Headfonia's review, but really couldn't get on with them. Looking at the effin'ringin's requency response charts for the headphone made me realise why I couldn't get on with it, horrible spikes! Someone points out how they probably seem bass-light because you wouldn't dare turn the volume up in fear of killing your hearing. That put me right off AKG!! And that's not even mentioning the horrible earcups and fitting.
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Was at the National Audio Show at the weekend where they had a whole demo room of headphones from different manufacturers. Clearly a sign that it's a burgeoning marketplace, even in the 'high-end' area.

I personally was particularly impressed with the AKG Q701's, extremely good value for money I thought and they sounded fabulous, a big improvement on my last set of headphones, AKG K140's. I also demo'ed some of the top of the line Sennheiser's, also very good but they are significantly more expensive.

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