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AVI ADM9s: breakthrough or too much hype?

I realise there's been quite a lot of discussion on these active speakers here and there on these forums, but I thought I'd try to launch a more definitive discussion. A member here very kindly mentioned these speakers to me as an option when I mentioned my desire for a high-end system mainly for streaming music via a MAC or iPhone. The ADM9s seem to fit the bill because of the (in fact, rather obvious) innovation of fitting everything needed for streaming (amp, DAC and speakers) in one box. Previously, I had been thinking of getting all Rega components, but the ADM9s (not the catchiest name) would seem to do the same, while taking up less space at slightly less cost. Question is: would they sound as good?

I know the manufacturers of these speakers are very vocal in pointing to their virtues but I'd love to hear -- in one place -- music-lovers' experiences, especially of the latest models. I ask this partly because of the difficulty of demo-ing a pair.

 

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I'm not quite sure what you're expecting to hear that you won't have already heard in all the other threads you mention, people who own them, love them and generally think they're better than anything else, people who haven't heard them don't really have an opinion worth listening to.

And aren't we all music lovers, surely that's why we spend stupid sums of money on this gear? Seems an odd distinction to make, how does one prove one is a music lover or not?

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My opinion will be of limited use because I've only heard the 9.1T model.  Having said that I rate the 9.1T as the biggest bargain in hifi, I would expect them to trounce the Rega setup.  Fwiw, the 9.1Ts easily kept pace with the £7k system I had at the time.  Add the sub at a later date, and you'd have a system that imo would hold its own with more or less anything.

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Hm, well, the problem is the actual testimonials are very strung out on the other forums, interlaced with observations on the weather etc, so I think worth trying to provide something more concentrated. Also, some owners (or former owners) don't seem to love them. There is this issue of the "clinical" or "flat" sound, for example.

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how does one prove one is a music lover or not?

 

I think the traditional way is to have a more esoteric taste than everyone else.  You need to rub everyones faces in the fact that you are listening to some new post-goth-folk-core that isn't as good as the album they made before they were cool...  Well, thats the Hipster route anyway.

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Only heard the original model, and they sounded fine, nothing bad but nothing special.

I would demo both the Rega system and the AVI's and make a decision on that.

If it was me, I would go down the seperates route, I think you will get better VFM IMO and IME.

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My opinion will be of limited use because I've only heard the 9.1T model.  Having said that I rate the 9.1T as the biggest bargain in hifi, I would expect them to trounce the Rega setup.  Fwiw, the 9.1Ts easily kept pace with the £7k system I had at the time.  Add the sub at a later date, and you'd have a system that imo would hold its own with more or less anything.

 

What was the "£7k system" if you dont mind me asking?

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The_Lhc wrote:

how does one prove one is a music lover or not?

I think the traditional way is to have a more esoteric taste than everyone else.  You need to rub everyones faces in the fact that you are listening to some new post-goth-folk-core that isn't as good as the album they made before they were cool...

Oh right, so my Sunday purchases of Les Paul, Peter Sellers (on 10" LP),  a Goon Show original Mono pressing and, err, Jean Michel Jarre's Magnetic Fields isn't going to cut it then?

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Paul Hobbs wrote:
The_Lhc wrote:

how does one prove one is a music lover or not?

I think the traditional way is to have a more esoteric taste than everyone else.  You need to rub everyones faces in the fact that you are listening to some new post-goth-folk-core that isn't as good as the album they made before they were cool...

Oh right, so my Sunday purchases of Les Paul, Peter Sellers (on 10" LP),  a Goon Show original Mono pressing and, err, Jean Michel Jarre's Magnetic Fields isn't going to cut it then?

 

See, now I am supposed to pretend that I have heared those things and now the game continues...

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Hm, well, the problem is the actual testimonials are very strung out on the other forums, interlaced with observations on the weather etc, so I think worth trying to provide something more concentrated. Also, some owners (or former owners) don't seem to love them. There is this issue of the "clinical" or "flat" sound, for example.

I think it's worth noting how many people have forgotten all about their 'next upgrade' once they've bought some.  My own personal opinion of the people who've failed to settle with them (and they seem to be a very small minority), is that they've found the sound to be too much of a change from what they are used to, and I can understand that, some systems are very 'coloured' and the ADMs aren't.  It can be a shock to hear music without the sound of the system laid over the top of it.  If you post on the Avi forum, you may find an owner who lives near you who'd be happy to let you hear them.

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I guess it depends if you want your system to be a hobby or not.  If you just want great music to come from as few boxes as possible, then looks like AVIs *.  If you want to tinker and improve the system over time, the AVIs are probably a bit boring.

 

* Making assumptions based on the many glowing personal reviews on this forum, not heard them.

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Craig M. wrote:

My opinion will be of limited use because I've only heard the 9.1T model.  Having said that I rate the 9.1T as the biggest bargain in hifi, I would expect them to trounce the Rega setup.  Fwiw, the 9.1Ts easily kept pace with the £7k system I had at the time.  Add the sub at a later date, and you'd have a system that imo would hold its own with more or less anything.

 

What was the "£7k system" if you dont mind me asking?

QBD76 ATC SIA 2-150 ATC SCM 19.  Being very honest, the ADMs were better. 

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The_Lhc wrote:

Paul Hobbs wrote:
The_Lhc wrote:

how does one prove one is a music lover or not?

I think the traditional way is to have a more esoteric taste than everyone else.  You need to rub everyones faces in the fact that you are listening to some new post-goth-folk-core that isn't as good as the album they made before they were cool...

Oh right, so my Sunday purchases of Les Paul, Peter Sellers (on 10" LP),  a Goon Show original Mono pressing and, err, Jean Michel Jarre's Magnetic Fields isn't going to cut it then?

See, now I am supposed to pretend that I have heared those things and now the game continues...

Ah and now I point and laugh knowingly at your spelling mistake and use it as a reason to believe I'm more intelligent than you are, rather than simply being a typo due to the "e", "r" and "d" being so close together?

I haven't heard Magnetic Fields either but I'd picked up Oxygene and Equinox the other week so I figured for 2 quid I might as well complete the set...

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Hm, well, the problem is the actual testimonials are very strung out on the other forums, interlaced with observations on the weather etc, so I think worth trying to provide something more concentrated.

It's quite nice here in Bristol by the way, sun shining, light winds, lovely in fact, thanks for asking!

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hoopsontoast wrote:

Only heard the original model, and they sounded fine, nothing bad but nothing special.

I would demo both the Rega system and the AVI's and make a decision on that.

If it was me, I would go down the seperates route, I think you will get better VFM IMO and IME.

Really? I think you'd struggle to find a stereo integrated amplifier with comparable power to the ADMs -  for the price of a pair of ADMs, then you'd need a DAC and of course, speakers of comparable quality.
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I think the traditional way is to have a more esoteric taste than everyone else.  You need to rub everyones faces in the fact that you are listening to some new post-goth-folk-core that isn't as good as the album they made before they were cool...  Well, thats the Hipster route anyway.

 

It's a bit like Macs. I've been using them for about 20 years, since when only about 3%, I believe, of computer users used them. Then you felt a little as if you were part of a savvy, stylish in-group, rejecting the coporate main. Now every grommet has one they're far less appealing.

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