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RE: Chord Chorus2 Vs. Tellurium Ultra Black

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It's funny the number of cable sceptics who just happened to be passing by a friend's house and walked in.  

I might ring the office of national statistics to find out what the figures are for accidents caused by wives going back to their tether point in the kitchen just as the sceptical mate walks in the living room door. 

haha.. do it, please... I have few people walk in our home every week leaving comments on my cables

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MakkaPakka wrote:

 

Might as well close the thread.

 

The 'my wife heard a difference' comment has come out.

 

 

 

:help:

 

yes, please. close it. kill it. let the better hearing brains enjoy their cables. 

+1 for closing the thread. any more?

 

 

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steve_1979 wrote:

altruistic.lemon wrote:

What percentage of hifi enthusiasts take these blind tests - 1%? .1%?

I don't know (and I don't make up random statistics either).

 

altruistic.lemon wrote:

I've never done blind tests (except for wine), have you?

Yes I have and didn't hear a difference.

Hi,

I have done blind listening tests and heard differences, my wife has been in the other room and has heard differences. I have even had an engineer come to my place who didnt believe cables make a difference and now he convinced.

Enjoy the music.

Cheers

Steve. 

Sorry, but that statement proves beyond doubt that the differences are purely imaginary, and confirms zero credibility for all the claims made.

BTW Don’t you find it strange that only Hi Fi Nuts can hear a difference, but the rest of the world cant?

Bill

 

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abacus wrote:

BTW Don’t you find it strange that only Hi Fi Nuts can hear a difference, but the rest of the world cant?

Which cables have you tried "that haven't made a difference", and on what kit?

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

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For all the sceptics I can hear ten  ( or more as you wish) different cabels on the same system and hear it for 5 minutes every time than on a blind test I will identify which cabel is it on 100 % sucsess  ( you can test me on speakers and amps as well ) so don't tell me cabels aren't making any difference just admit that your hearing is not sensitive enough !  

Hi Fi : Proac Studio 140MK2 > Rotel RC 1580 > Rotel RB 1582 > Rotel RCD 1520 > B&W P7 >Tellurium Q cables   

 

 

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Be interesting to know how many of these experts have actually done cable blind testing. 

My guess says none. I'm not remotely interested in cables, life's far too short, but it does seem there's a handful of  armchair activists who refuse too accept that there's maybe a chance the vast majority aren't simply stupid and misguided, but genuinely do hear benefits. Most also have probably never done the stringent testing they're all so willing to advocate themselves.

Really, if people do hear benefits, either sighted or blindfolded, does it matter? 

 

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ISAC69 wrote:

For all the sceptics I can hear ten  ( or more as you wish) different cabels on the same system and hear it for 5 minutes every time than on a blind test I will identify which cabel is it on 100 % sucsess  ( you can test me on speakers and amps as well ) so don't tell me cabels aren't making any difference just admit that your hearing is not sensitive enough !  

 

Wowsie....

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abacus wrote:

BTW Don’t you find it strange that only Hi Fi Nuts can hear a difference, but the rest of the world cant?

Which cables have you tried "that haven't made a difference", and on what kit?

The cables varied from £5 to £200 and were of various types; however I did not know what was used on what as it was a proper blind test.

I have also tried them on professional studio/Music equipment and once again there was no difference. (The studio engineers just shake their heads, as to how Hi Fi Nuts can be so gullible)

If you ever get the chance to go into a studio to hear proper sound equipment, do so, as you will be amazed at how poor the sound reproduction of your top end Hi Fi system really is.

Bill

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Really, if people do hear benefits, either sighted or blindfolded, does it matter? 

Nope to me it dosnt. But I do like reading the cat fights in cable threads. 

 

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The cables varied from £5 to £200 and were of various types; however I did not know what was used on what as it was a proper blind test.

I have also tried them on professional studio/Music equipment and once again there was no difference. (The studio engineers just shake their heads, as to how Hi Fi Nuts can be so gullible)

If you ever get the chance to go into a studio to hear proper sound equipment, do so, as you will be amazed at how poor the sound reproduction of your top end Hi Fi system really is.

Bill

I have. I wasn't. My system is so much better.
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abacus wrote:

The cables varied from £5 to £200 and were of various types; however I did not know what was used on what as it was a proper blind test.

I have also tried them on professional studio/Music equipment and once again there was no difference. (The studio engineers just shake their heads, as to how Hi Fi Nuts can be so gullible)

If you ever get the chance to go into a studio to hear proper sound equipment, do so, as you will be amazed at how poor the sound reproduction of your top end Hi Fi system really is.

Bill

Thank you Bill.

I can only comment on the brands that I've heard......which is why I asked. 

IME. They don't always make a difference, but when they do, that difference is not always for the better.

If you have a reasonable hifi system and get the chance to insert TQ Black cables into it (including the mains cable).....I will be amazed if you don't hear a very noticeable difference. Either way, i would like to hear what you think.

:cheers:

Cno

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ISAC69 wrote:

For all the sceptics I can hear ten  ( or more as you wish) different cabels on the same system and hear it for 5 minutes every time than on a blind test I will identify which cabel is it on 100 % sucsess  ( you can test me on speakers and amps as well ) so don't tell me cabels aren't making any difference just admit that your hearing is not sensitive enough !  

Now that i would like to witness!! If you could do that you truly have ears of a god  :pray:

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ISAC69 wrote:

For all the sceptics I can hear ten  ( or more as you wish) different cabels on the same system and hear it for 5 minutes every time than on a blind test I will identify which cabel is it on 100 % sucsess  ( you can test me on speakers and amps as well ) so don't tell me cabels aren't making any difference just admit that your hearing is not sensitive enough !  

 

And yet when James Randi offered $1m to anyone who could tell the difference between $7k cable and $100 speaker cable no one came forward to take his money.  Even the guy that made the £7k cable bottled it and wouldn't take the test.  Where were you or are you so rich that $1m wasn't worth the bother? Why didn't you take the Harbeth challenge and pick up some free speakers while you were at it?

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makka, why didn't you put your money where your mouth is and try the tests? Or are you so rich, to use your own words, that 1m dollars or free speakers weren't worth it?

Have you done proper blind tests of cables, by the way?

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When did I imply or suggest I thought I would pass them. The whole point is that no one will and all the people making big claims don't have the guts to try.

I have done various tests. The A/B sighted tests told me that further testing of cables was not warranted. 

As I said earlier, if there's such a difference then someone can make two recordings in his-res, one with expensive cable one without. Load them into ABX comparator on foobar2000 and then all will be proven - 'night and day' differences will be there. Not hard to do at all so why has no cable manufacturer done it and published results?

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RE: Chord Chorus2 Vs. Tellurium Ultra Black

At ther end of the day it is preference I have chord cobra 2 Interconnects on Cyrus CD/AMP and Silverscreen on SPkrs plus QED Profile fibre optic on NAS Drive (5m) and (1m) fibre optic between CD/Amp and I prefer analogue sound via cobra as it has a wider soundstage.  I also enjoy 751BD player connected analogue via cheaper rca leads to the same amp so DVD audio via 192/24 bit is outstanding. Fortunately my amp does not prejudice against 256kbps via my most expensive chord prodac cable from Sonos Zp90 in comparison to the rest of the system. ironically I have spent more on the streaming part which helps to maintain the balance between CD, SACD & DVD Audio/BluRay Soundtracks.

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