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PMC 25 24 Home Demo

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As the subject says - I have a pair of PMC 25 24 on home demo. I like what I hear so far .... Just getting used to the bass - very powerful (compared to the ls50s) tuneful and not boomy .... I'm wondering whether the 23s might suit my room. However the reason I went for the 24 is that I wanted to hear and feel a kick drum (as an example) as it should.

The imaging on the 50s is better but the PMCs have that sparkle and clarity, without being harsh, which is appealing.

My dealer is being very accommodating as next on my list is a pair of KEF ref 1 which are an ex demo pair being dropped off on Monday .....

Hmmm decisions .... ?

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I bet you'll prefer the Kefs.

I bet you'll prefer the Kefs....but I'm (very) biased. Angel

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CnoEvil wrote:

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I bet you'll prefer the Kefs....but I'm (very) biased. Angel

It will be interesting ... I fancy something with more presence cno ... The ls50s are great but a 5ish inch driver in a small box has limitations.
The PMCs are also discounted hence them being on the audition list ... I do like a hi fi bargain.

The wife doesn't like the looks but it not a deal breaker ... She is very accommodating to my hi fi needs.

While at the hi fi shop they had a pair of blade 2 playing in the background .... The bass! They weren't being played loud .. just background sound but the quality of it had so much presence ... So effortless Smile

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My bet is with floorstanders 

My bet is with floorstanders Biggrin

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insider9 wrote:

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My bet is with floorstanders Biggrin

Smile I just need to get used to that bass ....

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One you do there's no going

One you do there's no going back. Most speakers will be lacking.

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insider9 wrote:

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My bet is with floorstanders Biggrin

That's because you haven't heard the Ref 1s...which have the same Frequency Response as my Floorstanders [45Hz- 35kHz (±3dB) and 30 Hz in room response].

I also feel PMC massage their Frequency Response.

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insider9 wrote:

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One you do there's no going back. Most speakers will be lacking.

They sound 'better' at lower volume listening than the KEFs

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As always your room will

As always your room will dictate the future of your upgrade, bass is very nice and needed to have a full scale representation, but if in conflict in the room will hide other frequencies and detail in the sound stage. 

Play with them, ie, find the right positioning, some times is hard with new gear. 

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Kubs wrote:

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insider9 wrote:

One you do there's no going back. Most speakers will be lacking.

They sound 'better' at lower volume listening than the KEFs

thats usually because they are not so demanding in power to drive them, what’s the specs compared with the LS50...?

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CnoEvil wrote:

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My bet is with floorstanders Biggrin

That's because you haven't heard the Ref 1s...which have the same Frequency Response as my Floorstanders [45Hz- 35kHz (±3dB) and 30 Hz in room response].

I also feel PMC massage their Frequency Response.

Could be, it was more of an overall comment. Not really aimed at Kefs or PMCs in question. 

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my advice is go with the more

my advice is go with the more bass speaker then apply management to it.

You can't add bass that's not there but you can manage what is

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and if you want a more

and if you want a more articulate bass use Tellurium Q Black 2 speaker cables with the jumpers.

Try them next mate

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Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

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As always your room will dictate the future of your upgrade, bass is very nice and needed to have a full scale representation, but if in conflict in the room will hide other frequencies and detail in the sound stage. 

Play with them, ie, find the right positioning, some times is hard with new gear. 

Most important, have fun! Drinks

I hear ya! Sound advice.
I started with them firing straight down the room, which looked odd from my listening position and have now settled on a slight toe in .... I have some accoustic panels which I am experimenting with ... I think they make a difference ...

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Specs.

Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

 what’s the specs compared with the LS50...?

PMC Twenty5 24s floorstanders costing £5,000

KEF LS50s standmounts costing £800.

Not exactly an even fight. A bit like Anthony Joshua v Amir Khan really.

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jjbomber wrote:

jjbomber wrote:

Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

 what’s the specs compared with the LS50...?

PMC Twenty5 24s floorstanders costing £5,000

KEF LS50s standmounts costing £800.

Not exactly an even fight. A bit like Anthony Joshua v Amir Khan really.

You are knocking at the right door, believe me, just upgraded my Dyns that have costted 850€ 9 years ago, for some 4490€ ones... But got them 35% less as they were demo units. 

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