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RE: Sony DA2400ES 3d capable??

I have the same amp and TV and subsequently the same issue. The TV came with a free 3D Sony BDP-S490 and I still have my older Panasonic DMP-BD85. I understand that I could trade in the two Blu-ray players for a dual HDMI player but how much of an improvement do you guys think the Pioneer SCLX56 amp would make? I know you've recommended the dual HDMI route but just for the sake of argument do you think the Pioneer amp is significantly better than the 2400?

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Just use a Logitech Harmony remote.  Smile

I bought one of those once. It broke within two weeks. I was not impressed...

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bigboss wrote:

Just use a Logitech Harmony remote.  Smile

I bought one of those once. It broke within two weeks. I was not impressed...

thats unusual. Mine is still going strong after almost 4 years. Besides, Logitech customer service is excellent. One of forum members's remote battery swelled up & damaged the remote after 30 months of use. Logitech sent a brand new replacement remote without any questions.

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I just took delivery of my new Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray player, so am now in a position to give some feedback for the benefit of others:

1) The BDP-103 is brilliant! Highly recommended...

2) The Sony STR-DA2400ES Receiver does not support HDMI 3D pass-through; nor can it decode the audio part of a 3D signal.

3) The combination (Sony KDL-46HX850 TV, Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray, Sony STR-DA2400ES Receiver) does get its knickers in a twist concerning the HDMI CEC control commands. (I wrote to Oppo technical support with some suggestions to improve it, but we shall see if they are able to respond in kind...)

4) Another poster suggested using a Harmony Remote for setting scenes as an alternative to using the HDMI CEC control commands. In the meantime I have looked into these products, and am astounded how expensive they are. So I am now seriously thinking of selling the STR-DA2400ES, adding in the money that I would "save" by not buying a Harmony Remote, and buying a new Receiver having HDMI v1.4 with 3D pass-through, audio decoding of 3D signals, and ARC to boot. => Any thoughts?

 

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What's your budget?

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What's your budget?

Hmmm. How long is a piece of string? But I am thinking in the range of GBP 500.Obviously I don't want to step down in sound quality compared to the DA2400ES, so I suppose would have to be prepared to pay more if it is absolutely essential...

Note: I have a KEF KHT-3005SE 5.1 speaker set, so I don't need 7.2 or 9.2 channels. And the KEF sub is active so that the amp does not need to deliver bass power. Furthermore, the Oppo blu-ray has all the video processing smarts (including 3D & 4k), so the amp needs no video capability at all (multi standard video switching and 3D & 4k pass-through are enough). And finally all my sources are digital (HDMI, opto, spdif), so the amp doesn't need much in analog phono inputs (perhaps one for a guest's Mp3 player).

 

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One of the best bargains currently:

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HD.php?_YAM_1010_&CAT=HCAMP&ID=4655

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2) The Sony STR-DA2400ES Receiver does not support HDMI 3D pass-through; nor can it decode the audio part of a 3D signal.

 

The STR-DA2400ES will decode the audio fine - I suspect you havent set the blu-ray up correctly.

HDMI 1 to TV, HDMI 2 to AV.

Then you have to turn off the video for the 2nd hdmi. On the Oppo I think its called Split A/V

(page 53 of the manual)

I have to do a similar thing with my Panny310/Sony5400 combo.

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The STR-DA2400ES will decode the audio fine - I suspect you havent set the blu-ray up correctly.

Yes I know this. You clearly did not read my post properly.

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2) The Sony STR-DA2400ES Receiver ... nor can it decode the audio part of a 3D signal.

 

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You have set the OPPO to send audio only through HDMI2 ?

So you are getting 3D on the tv and lossless sound through the amp - and are just moaning about HDMI-CEC ?

 

 

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 ... just moaning about HDMI-CEC ?

 

I think you are being offensive. You did not read my post properly, and you you seem to be criticising me for something that I did not say. My post was merely giving feedback of my findings. Thank you.

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 ... just moaning about HDMI-CEC ?

 

I think you are being offensive. You did not read my post properly, and you you seem to be criticising me for something that I did not say. My post was merely giving feedback of my findings. Thank you.

 

Not at all - I was just checking that you'd got the 3D picture and lossless sound working ok. 

But as you clearly dont appreciate my help I'll just say the CEC will work with the right combination of settings - and leave it at that.

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... as you clearly dont appreciate my help ...

Obviously there was some mis-understanding here. Its not that I don't appreciate help; only that I did not need any help; and so I was not even asking for such help. My message was simply posted as feedback to other users who may (or may not) be interested in what the DA2400ES can (and cannot) do.

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I was just checking that you'd got the 3D picture and lossless sound working ok.

Yes, of course. (That is why I bought the Oppo with its two separate HDMI outputs). But thanks anyway for asking.

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... I'll just say the CEC will work with the right combination of settings - and leave it at that.

On this topic, (now that you mention it), I would actually be very interested to know what you have discovered Wink

 

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Its actually easier than I first thought...no limited CEC needed...

 

For this test, I have

- Samsung TV connected to Sony AMP via the hdmi out, and optical from tv to amp (TV optical)

- Panasonic Blu-ray(twin hdmi) connected to TV's HDMI 2 input, and the other HDMI into the BD input of the amp

- SkyBox connected to SAT input on amp

CEC is turned on all 3 devices.

 

- As you'd expect CEC gets mixed up when trying to control this lot from the BD - it turns tv on, swaps to HDMI2 on tv the but doesnt swap to BD input on the AMP, and doesnt release HDMI2 on the tv when you turn off the BD.

 

- However it does work using the remote for the TV and the AMP. It is easier to use the remote with the AMP (I'll get to that later).

For example using the TV remote - I turn on the TV, select tools CEC amp and the amp turns on, select CEC player and the BD turns on, and the amp switches to BD input, and I can control the BD+AMP  with the tvs remote. When I turn off the BD the input sticks on HDMI2 but pressing channel up/down fixes this and it changes to TV, and the amp changes over to TV optical. Depending on the menu layout on your TV when it comes to controlling CEC devices its probably easier to use the AMPs remote.

 

- Better still is using the remote for the amp which I think is practically the same remote as on the 2400.

You may or may not have to program it with the correct code to control your TV and BD. (I had to for my TV, but not the BD). You may have to search the internet for an OPPO code, but if you cant find a BD code, a DVD code should work just as well..

With everything in standby I can press BD on the AMP's remote to bring the AMP on and with BD still selected I can control the blu-ray. Press play and the TV turns on, switches to HDMI2 and the bluray turns on and starts playing. Turn off the BD player using the smaller power button, press TV channel UP/DOWN and the TV switches back to TV input and the amp switches over to TV.

Press TV on the remote, press tv input to change input to AMP, Press SAT on amp and sky appears on the  TV (sky doesnt support full cec).

Its not as good as using my Logitech Harmony - (but its fine for the main functions on each device).

 

Some TOSHIBA, PHILIPS, MAGNAVOX, MARANTZ or ZENITH codes are known to work for Oppos.

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AndrewFG wrote:

2) The Sony STR-DA2400ES Receiver does not support HDMI 3D pass-through; nor can it decode the audio part of a 3D signal.

 

The STR-DA2400ES will decode the audio fine - I suspect you havent set the blu-ray up correctly.

HDMI 1 to TV, HDMI 2 to AV.

Then you have to turn off the video for the 2nd hdmi. On the Oppo I think its called Split A/V

(page 53 of the manual)

I have to do a similar thing with my Panny310/Sony5400 combo.

Hi AnotherJoe,

Can you help at all please ?

I too have a 5400es amp plus a Panasonic 500 Blu Ray player all linked to a Panasonic GT30 42" tv.

When I first linked all of these together the source switching was all fine however it now keeps switching to the tv input on my amp which is driving me nuts. Do you know what I am doing wrong ??? I want the amp to just switch to HDMI1 (which I have re-named Blu ray on the amp) when I switch on the Blu Ray player to watch a film..

I keep looking for what I have done wrong but cannot for the life of me fathom it out. I did try to get to the bottom of this before (See My settings for my Panasonic 500 post by Oldboy - http://www.whathifi.com/forum/blu-ray-players/my-settings-for-the-panasonic-dmp-bdt500eb - page 2 half way down)

On Blu Ray player hdmi leads - main goes to tv, sub goes to amp. Video is set for off on 2nd hdmi / sub output.

Use hdmi1 for Blu Ray input on Sony amp.

 

Can you help at all ??????? If you need anymore info I would gratefully go through it.

 

Oh, and sorry to bump the thread - ps our 5400es isnt capable of 3d pass through either - just to keep my post relevant 'ish.

 

Ps Could it be anything to do with Veira Link ??? Viera Link Control is set to Player & Speaker Selection is set to Home Cinema. I can control ON/OFF & Volume of amp / tv fine. Just the switching to tv input on Sony amp is the issue. 

 

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