You're probably right. In the not too distant future there'll be no such thing as an affordable BDP with twin HDMI outs.
Not wanting to part with my Denon 2500BT was a big factor in my decision. If I hadn't got the free BDP I'd probably have bought a Sony 790, but there's always ebay further down the line. I'm content to see how I get on for now. Incidentally, did you check out the Panasonic 120 review I linked to on another thread? If not, here's the link again:
That pretty much sealed it for me.
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It's a decent review, and those guys know their stuff.
I think I can raise £100 plus if I sell the Pana 120 and Pioneer 320, so half of what the Sony will cost.
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I bought the Denon second hand for £170, which in my view was an absolute steal. I also think it's an astonishingly good player (or transport, to use Denon's terminology).
It's built like a tank, so should keep going for some time yet. There's always the fear that Denon will stop releasing firmware updates for older players, but I'm yet to find a Blu-ray disc the 2500 won't play. It's silent in operation, too, which for me is priceless.
Good price in comparison to the RRP, and cheaper than one on ebay now.
I'm stopping typing now, the drink's kicking in, and I'm forgetting exactly which thread I'm posting on.
Denon has not released firmware updates for 2500BT since 2009.
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Yes, as far as I can tell, the last firmware update was v 1.122. That said, I've not encountered a single disc that won't play, and I own more than 250 Blu-ray titles. Apparently I'd have difficulties with Cowboys and Aliens, though
Watch it on Sky Movies. I only watched it yesterday on Sky Anytime.
I'd suggest getting a Panasonic BDT310 with twin hdmi from ebay (£139)
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Does anyone by any chance know if, with the twin HDMI connections, the HDMI CEC function would still work? So that the Receiver and the Tv will both select the Blu-Ray player when it is turned on, and the Receiver selects the TV optical out when the Blu-Ray player is turned off?
I've no idea, but I have the same amp as you, and I knew nothing of this function before you mentioned it, so thanks, I'm going to try it out.
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Oh, it's a tv function.
Well its not really just a Tv function...
CEC covers the case when you have multiple devices (player, Tv, amp, etc.) each having its own remote control and the devices are joined together via HDMI wires. What happens is that when you send an I/R command from any particular remote control to its respective device, then the command is echoed along all the HDMI wires to all the other devices. The easiest to understand example is if you hit the off button on any remote control, then all other devices get turned off too, but it also applies to Pause, Play, Fwd, Rwd, Vol, and input select commands.
In my current case the HDMI is a "line" from Player to Receiver to Tv, and this works fine. However in future I would have a "Y" from Player to both Receiver and to Tv, and I don't know if that would work any more...
Edit: see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC for more
Well explained. I was aware of it, but had never used it.
I might see if I can set it up later, though the new tv is coming later, and I can't think of anything but that at the moment.
As for wether it will work with your new y set up, I really don't know, but presumably the commands will still travel down the line, so in theory, it should.
... presumably the commands will still travel down the line, so in theory, it should.
I fear there may be problems due to the triangular HDMI connection topology: Player->Tv, Player->Receiver, Receiver->Tv.
When the Player proclaims itself as "CEC Active Device" the Tv should select the input from the Player, and the Receiver should select the (second) input from the Player. So far so good. But then (I fear) the Receiver would proclaim itself as "CEC Active Device" and thus cause the TV to select the indirect video path Player->Receiver->Tv rather than the direct (better) video path Player->Tv.
Just use a Logitech Harmony remote.
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