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And as if by magic this is in todays news !*yahoo*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28337124

Sorry Electro, but it's small beer and likely to take a while and I don't think that solar power is the way forward for this country bearing in mind our overall climate. What we need are loads of small generating stations up and down the country generating power ( 6 Mw ) and transferring this power to the 11Kv overhead network across the landscape. We don't need to generate power at 440Kv for the " national ring main". This was my idea a long time ago.

Funny story about that though. I went looking for a supplier of corn oil and I spoke to a guy that distributed Spry Crisp n Dry.

When I asked about quantity he said " Yes, we can do 500ml, 1 litre, 5 litre and for really large quantities we can do 25 litres". I then asked him for a price for 30,000 litres ( 1 tanker full ) 3 times a week. There was a muffled squeak, a crash and the phone went dead. Emailed him but still haven't had a price. Just thought you might like that 1. Wink

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Richard Allen wrote:

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And as if by magic this is in todays news !*yahoo*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28337124

Sorry Electro, but it's small beer and likely to take a while and I don't think that solar power is the way forward for this country bearing in mind our overall climate. What we need are loads of small generating stations up and down the country generating power ( 6 Mw ) and transferring this power to the 11Kv overhead network across the landscape. We don't need to generate power at 440Kv for the " national ring main". This was my idea a long time ago.

Funny story about that though. I went looking for a supplier of corn oil and I spoke to a guy that distributed Spry Crisp n Dry.

When I asked about quantity he said " Yes, we can do 500ml, 1 litre, 5 litre and for really large quantities we can do 25 litres". I then asked him for a price for 30,000 litres ( 1 tanker full ) 3 times a week. There was a muffled squeak, a crash and the phone went dead. Emailed him but still haven't had a price. Just thought you might like that 1.

It may be small  but 1 gigawatt of solar power in Bristol by 2020 is not half bad !

Multiply this by a few hundred or maybe thousand times across the country by 2020 and it is a very serious amount of power !

I agree about local power grids and like you I have been talking about this for years . We will not need a national electricity power grid that is very expensive to maintain and very vulnerable to terrorist attack in these troubled times .

We do however need a gas pipework national grid . This can be used in future to supply Hydrogen to homes for cooking and heating systems .

Existing cooking and heating appliances can easily be converted to use Hydrogen and they will be far safer to use , no one will ever die from carbon monoxide poisoning from a dodgy boiler again , if there was to be a hydrogen leak it clears the area many times more quickly than natural gas because it is so light so there is far less risk of ignition  and a subsequent explosion , also  zero pollution is caused by a leak !

 The spry distributor probably saw you as a competitor as soon as you mentioned the large quantity Biggrin

Please do not be tempted to run a modern diesel ( common fuel rail ) on vegetable oil beause it will destroy your fuel pump and injectors over a period of time mainly due to the small amount of alcohol that is added to the mix not to mention the build up of deposits in the pipework , any diesel fitted with a DPF filter is an absolute no no Stop

Older diesels can run on it satisfactorily but they do suffer with cold start problems and the smell ......... Wacko

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Electro wrote:

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Please do not be tempted to run a modern diesel ( common fuel rail ) on vegetable oil beause it will destroy your fuel pump and injectors over a period of time mainly due to the small amount of alcohol that is added to the mix not to mention the build up of deposits in the pipework , any diesel fitted with a DPF filter is an absolute no no Stop

Older diesels can run on it satisfactorily but they do suffer with cold start problems and the smell ......... Wacko

No alcohol at all. Oil pre-heated to reduce viscosity. I think a 40 Litre Cummings diesel'll cope with that. It's only got to run for 500 hours then it's taken offline for service. But yeah, It'll smell like a chippy!!!, unless filtered.

To develop your hydrogen idea further. Try this one.

 Wind turbine to generate power for electrolysis. Hydrogen and oxygen separated and stored. If you're going to burn it, why not make steam?. The Cummings engine should spin using steam and if it won't I know for a fact that Perkins make one that will. All you need to do is change the camshaft cogs or pulleys because normally the camshaft runs at half engine speed. That's where the 4 strokes come from. Run it at crankshaft speed and it becomes a straight in-out system. Diesels of that size are normally 25:1 compression ratio. That is to say 350psi in the cylinder. I know that's achievable. A Perkins V12 gas engine is only 14:1 I think from memory. 196psi.

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Cummins commercial diesels

Cummins commercial diesels are perfect for vegetable oil usage mainly due to their unique cam operated injectors / pumps , this is why the military love Cummins multi fuel engines .

Fuel pre heating does help with cold starts and running , even diesel needs this in very cold climates but most diesels don't like the thicker viscosity .

I had a customer that ran a fleet of tippers some years ago on used vegetable oil but after a few years running he went back to diesel because the running costs were no better when reliability and maintainence costs were factored in .

Wind turbines are quite useless at providing electrical power to the national grid because the wind never blows at the right time , this is why they should be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen using multiple electrolizers and the Hydrogen stored in tanks or preferably in a metal hydride and then converted back into electricity using a reverse electrolizer ( fuel cell ) at any time or amount when the grid requires it .

The oxygen produced could be either vented to the air to help the environment or compressed , stored and sold for industrial or medical use .

This system turns wind generators into very useful energy supply  equipment rather than expensive subsidized scrap !

This project at the Imperial College London looks promising .

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/energyfutureslab/research/grandchallenges/solarhydrogen

 

 

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I understand your enthusiasm

I understand your enthusiasm but a 1 gig solar farm will take up acres that can be better spent with housing etc.

My system is ready to go.

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Further to this, my local

Further to this, my local energy provider has agreed to fit the switchgear, the fuel for the generators is sorted as is the price I get for producing the electricity. Multiply that by at least 10 and you understand where I'm coming from.

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Richard ,I would be very

Richard ,I would be very interested to hear more about your project without giving to much away obviously Wink .

Here are a couple of video's that might interest you especially the second one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG4Z-PbV_Fw&list=PLXilKFUFLaA73Z40nPEbEna2tgpYlL1M1&index=4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bps1TDvRLM&index=4&list=PLXilKFUFLaA73Z40nPEbEna2tgpYlL1M1

 

 

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Richard Allen wrote:

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I understand your enthusiasm but a 1 gig solar farm will take up acres that can be better spent with housing etc.

My system is ready to go.

This is the beauty of putting solar farms on ex landfill sites where building is not allowed and the only other possible use for these large areas is a country park !

Landfill sites also have the added bonus of landfill gas that is usually burnt off and wasted .

The landfill gas can be collected and steam reformed into hydrogen for power generation and the left over hydrocarbons can be used to make plastics and other carbon based products , a whole new industry can be created on site along with all the associated jobs , so it's win all round .

Try as I might I can't think of a down side Smile

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The future of hydrogen cars mapped out by UK government .

This is the plan Stan Biggrin

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/future-of-hydrogen-powered-cars-mapped-out

I have a sneaking suspicion that this timetable may be substantially brought forward depending on what happens in the Ukraine and the knock on from that situation,  and how the middle east unrest develops .

I would not pin my hopes on shale gas to bail us out either especially in the long term .

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More information about the

More information about the use of Hydrogen as a universal fuel and energy storage medium , it is short and to the point Smile

http://www.greenchipstocks.com/articles/the-prospects-of-hydrogyn-as-a-fuel-source/631

With the prospect of Russian natural gas being rationed to the countries that upset Mr Putin , Hydrogen is even more of a good idea don't you think ? Yes 3

The link below explains the above statement .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-16/natural-gas-is-putins-political-and-economical-weapon/5394030

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The UK should follow the Germany energy industry !

This is real and happening now and is the future of clean energy for the whole world.

Just think of the amount of new jobs it will create in the UK if we follow the German example .

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/427360/hydrogen-storage-could-be-key-to-germanys-energy-plans/

 

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A picture is worth a thousand

A picture is worth a thousand words so here is a picture.

You can add any available renewable energy source to the the picture of the sun and the effect is the same , i.e. clean unlimited power for ever . Smile

Here is the study it came from .

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgcep.stanford.edu%2Fpdfs%2Fhydrogen_workshop%2FSchoonman.pdf&ei=bngJVJmgCYvOaMPIgrAH&usg=AFQjCNGoEkB3H9Xpv0IaxMuM0pjXvo6TGQ&bvm=bv.74649129,d.d2s&cad=rja

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UK Government to help fund hydrogen filling stations

The UK government is funding 15 hydrogen car filling stations in britain .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11152792/Government-to-help-fund-hydrogen-filling-stations.html

 

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Toyota launch hydrogen fuel cell powered car

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