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There are many who will dismiss the use of mains conditioners etc. The national grid is mass of wires that brings power to our homes. It is vunerable to all sorts of things. The way we earth in this country affects sound quality also. When it rains, or it is very dry out,the time of day etc etc. All act to influence how our sound systems portray.

I'm been thinking it might be a mains issue, but I'm using a Monster HDP-2500 Stage II power conditioner with a Furutech G-320AG mains cable. I think the silver in the mains cable may have something to do with the sound. Perhaps, the silver has not not been burned in properly and the sound changes over time. I've had other silver-plated copper cables in the past and the sound seems to get "darker" over time.  I use a 50% copper and 50% silver cable on my plasma and the picture improved a lot but images get softer over time. Sound is stil lacking grip and detail compared to a couple months ago. It could be the speakers, but I bought them new in 2010 and it's never been driven hard.

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This is night and day difference though, not just, say oxidisation of exposed cables/connections. The quest continues. Thanks for the suggestions so far

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Sorry if i mislead you in any way. What i was trying to say was: Sound rendition will always be susceptible to certain conditions prevailing!

My system sounds different at times, but it is acceptable. My conditioner and mains filters cost thousands, but provide a uniform sound quality, that befits that which i can live with.

I have found that silver can be a problem when used in mains cables. Find heavy duty copper (Weaved types) Are best.But i suggest you talk to a reputable dealer, who can look at the kit you have, and suggest which products may suit your system better. There are so many permatations!

This very cold dry weather we have been experiencing, hasnt helped much. And believe it or not, all that salt in the air doesnt help much either( Look at your car) Covered in the stuff! Wait till it rains next, then your sound will change all over again!:mad:

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Yes it is certainly a night or day thing!;) ( Along with a lot of other determaining factors)

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Sorry if i mislead you in any way. What i was trying to say was: Sound rendition will always be susceptible to certain conditions prevailing!

 

God no, you haven't mislead me at all. I agree with what you're saying. Besides, the education is always interesting. I only found out by absolute chance that electricity affected the sound quality. I was unplugging various items in the room I was listening in to make more space, and suddenly noticed more depth and presence in the bass. I then went round the house turning everything off that I could to maximise the effect. I think the only thing apart from the hifi left on was the fridge ROFL

 

I've since tried a mains cleaning extension lead, and found in most cases, whilst offering more clarity, it strangles the dynamics, so it stays unused most of the time.

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If that's the case, then I should use large batteries to power my system. Maybe in the future of hifi, audio companies start making more and more battery-powered amps, dacs, and cd players, etc, to isolate from poor grounding and electricity issues. I've heard of companies like Red Wine Audio that have started this trend. However, their current amps are very expensive and low powered. Hopefully, we see cheaper and more powerful amps that are driven by batteries in the near future.

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Glad to read your fridge was still running:cheers: Sod the system! Cold beer was what was needed eh:shame:

Seriously though. There is a taxi company  near me, during the week, when they are quiet, system sings like a bird. Weekends (When i am at home) Not working away! Grain and mush, right through to the speakers. Yeap it all makes a difference. Luckily i can make adjustments on the conditioner. But take it out of the equation, UNLISTENABLE!!>)

Never underestimate the importance of infrastructure. As i have said, all that money spent on kit. And reliant on the UK power supply!:O

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csq2. If you feel thats the way forward!:wave:

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I do hope my Sinclair C5 starts after work tonight ROFL

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sogophonio11 wrote:

Now i am about to start something!:wall: Its all about mains! Your audio will sound different ,depending on weather, time of day, supply voltage etc.

Don't worry, quite a few of us have said the same thing many times!  At its simplest, my gear invariably sounds best after a long evening listening, not something I often get time for.  However, I'd not like to say whether that is because:-

1. everything is fully warmed up

2. the mains is less polluted

3. there is less distant traffic noise

4. I've just had a great evening

5. I'm getting tired

6. the beer...

Insert experience of choice! 

Krell CD and amp, Michell TT, Hitachi and Sony tuners, Nakamichi cassette, SBT streamer, Sonus faber spkrs.  

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Insert experience of choice!

 

I'll add one more. I was at a Pink Floyd tribute gig and let's just say people were lighting interesting "cigarettes". Breathing that in (involuntarily) definitely changed how things sounded over the evening. Dare I say it for the better :oops:

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I'll add one more. I was at a Pink Floyd tribute gig and let's just say people were lighting interesting "cigarettes". Breathing that in (involuntarily) definitely changed how things sounded over the evening. Dare I say it for the better :oops:

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Insert experience of choice!

 

I'll add one more. I was at a Pink Floyd tribute gig and let's just say people were lighting interesting "cigarettes". Breathing that in (involuntarily) definitely changed how things sounded over the evening. Dare I say it for the better :oops:

 

You have awfully hairy ears, so I'd address that first.

As to recreational drugs, looking at your eyes it seems you had plenty enough of those too.

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That thousand yard stare is from Nam dammit

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Great post guys! Thanks:rofl: Insert my preference, beer and a bit of recreational!

Its what gets us through at times eh? A little of what you fancy usualy good for you after all.

Cheers.

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