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Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?
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I intend to replace my Arcam Alpha 7 R amplifier.

My system: Arcam CD 72 player, Acoustic Energy Neo 1 speakers.

Can you recomennd a musical, fluid sounding budget amplifier with no harsh treble?

-Denon PMA 720AE

-Pioneer A 30 (the cheapest in my country)

-Nad 326BEE: do not like because of inprecise  volume regulation with remonte (I was listening to it, the sound was very good, very musical with strong bass)

-Cambridge Audio Azur 351A

-Nad 316BEE

Sorry, the budget Rega amp and the Arcam A 19   amplifiers are over my budget  :cry:

I have no possibility to listen all these amps, so I need your help

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

- Denon PMA-720AE

- Pioneer A-30

are both great amps with a very musical sound. I heard a PMA-520AE amp recently (the little brother of the PMA-720AE) and it already sounded very good, very close to the sound of the PMA-720AE. 

Hope this helps a bit  Wink

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

The ca 351a  sounds amazing.i was very impressed.

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

Thank you, I think I have the answer

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

Well do tell us which you've chosen.

I would choose the NAD 326Bee...I own one and have no idea what you mean my the imprecise volume control. You push up, the volume goes up, you push down, the volume goes down. ??

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

If you want warm, the Cambridge Audio would probably be my last choice. For musical presentation it's the NAD every time for me.

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Tibor, if you like the sound of the NAD I would go with the C326BEE.  I know what you mean about the volume control using the remote - it does seem to jump in larger increments than you expect and it is something I noticed with the C325BEE and C326BEE I had.  However, the NAD has a fairly unique sound and if you like its presentation having heard it I think it is a safe choice.  Just do as I did and adjust the remote manually on the front panel.

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

I have the Denon.  I'm no audiophile, but I wouldn't say the sound is warm.  I like the sound though.  I play mainly dance and indie and the music seems to have a bit of an 'edge' to it compared to my old cambridge audio A3i

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I would definitely not go from Arcam Alpha 7 to any amp mentioned above without a proper home demo. And I doubt very much, I would part with Arcam after the home demo (:

I think you'd be better of with changing your speakers or adding irDac to your CD player.

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

  Yes, the Nad 326BEE has absolutely musical and fluid sound, but is very annoying that is inpossible to regulate the volume with small increments(by remote). I am used to listening music at low volumes at night (in the bed) every day.

Dear Mathewpiano, you had Pioneer A30 amp, how  would you describe the sonic signature of this amp compared with Denon 720AE and Nad 326BEE?

The Pioneer is far cheaper than Nad and Denon, and it has good reviews in german hifi press

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KidKomet wrote:

If you want warm, the Cambridge Audio would probably be my last choice. For musical presentation it's the NAD every time for me.

Thank you for information

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nima wrote:

I would definitely not go from Arcam Alpha 7 to any amp mentioned above without a proper home demo. And I doubt very much, I would part with Arcam after the home demo (:

I think you'd be better of with changing your speakers or adding irDac to your CD player.

The arcam Alpha 7 is a very good amp, but my Arcam has some technical problem with volume knob, I can adjust the volume only by remote

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Tibor wrote:

nima wrote:

I would definitely not go from Arcam Alpha 7 to any amp mentioned above without a proper home demo. And I doubt very much, I would part with Arcam after the home demo (:

I think you'd be better of with changing your speakers or adding irDac to your CD player.

The arcam Alpha 7 is a very good amp, but my Arcam has some technical problem with volume knob, I can adjust the volume only by remote

So still perfectly useable then.

The Alpha & was never a great amplifier, even at it's price but it was always a very competent one with no obvious vices and in my not so humble opinion, far better than many of the amps mentioned in this thread.

Were you in the UK (you're not are you?) I would recommend that you have a good rummage down the back of the sofa and come up with a bit more cash and get the £850 Croft integrated.

This is a valve hybrid design that gives a real taste of valve 'warmth' and texture without the expense of all valve models.

 

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Tibor wrote:

  Yes, the Nad 326BEE has absolutely musical and fluid sound, but is very annoying that is inpossible to regulate the volume with small increments(by remote). I am used to listening music at low volumes at night (in the bed) every day.

Dear Mathewpiano, you had Pioneer A30 amp, how  would you describe the sonic signature of this amp compared with Denon 720AE and Nad 326BEE?

The Pioneer is far cheaper than Nad and Denon, and it has good reviews in german hifi press

Hi Tibor.  I've still got the A-30 at the moment.  It is a very nice amp but I would suggest it isn't as warm as the NAD, particularly in the bass, with more emphasis on clarity.  I'd say the Denon is warmer, but the Pioneer more refined and composed.

If you really liked the Arcam though be careful.

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davedotco wrote:

So still perfectly useable then.

The Alpha & was never a great amplifier, even at it's price but it was always a very competent one with no obvious vices and in my not so humble opinion, far better than many of the amps mentioned in this thread.

Were you in the UK (you're not are you?) I would recommend that you have a good rummage down the back of the sofa and come up with a bit more cash and get the £850 Croft integrated.

This is a valve hybrid design that gives a real taste of valve 'warmth' and texture without the expense of all valve models.

 

Boom. Job done. I can't think of a better direction to go given your tastes and requirements.

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RE: Warm, musical budget integrated amp. Which?

What about the Marantz 600* ? They seem to win nearly every award for budget amps. I would have a difficulty picking between the Pioneer A30, Marantz and NAD C316BEE.

HiFi - Cambridge Audio 340C, Pioneer A30, Denon TU 260L, Dali Lektor 2. 

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