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In fact, tomorrow I'm off to hear some Kef Blades (which I have no intention of buying), but the dealer has them out on demo for a while.

I hope they will be driven by a pair of Electrocompaniet Nemo's as KEF would recommend  Wink

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In fact, tomorrow I'm off to hear some Kef Blades (which I have no intention of buying), but the dealer has them out on demo for a while.

I hope they will be driven by a pair of Electrocompaniet Nemo's as KEF would recommend  Wink

Unfortunately they won't.  Sad

It will be Linn.....either Akurate or Klimax. 

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I'd like to know more about about Matthew's photography.

I found a photo of his (I think) of Stevenson's viaduct in Berwick but nothing else.

Walking and NT suggests lot's of UK landscapes (my favourite).

Matthew, will you indulge us one day with a photography thread or some links to your photographs?

Sorry to go OT.

As you all were.

 

 

Chebby, thank you for your interest, especially given how talented you are with a camera. The viaduct photo you found is indeed mine.  I'm not as good as you and I don't have huge confidence with it, but I love photography and, as you rightly summise, much of what I do is landscapes.   Funnily enough I'm generally more interested in capturing the picture than the kit - I use a Nikon D3100 DSLR now but I don't carry a huge amount of kit around with me.

I'll pick a couple of images out over the weekend and share them.

 

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chebby wrote:

I'd like to know more about about Matthew's photography.

I found a photo of his (I think) of Stevenson's viaduct in Berwick but nothing else.

Walking and NT suggests lot's of UK landscapes (my favourite).

Matthew, will you indulge us one day with a photography thread or some links to your photographs?

Sorry to go OT.

As you all were.

 

... I love photography and, as you rightly summise, much of what I do is landscapes.   Funnily enough I'm generally more interested in capturing the picture than the kit - I use a Nikon D3100 DSLR now but I don't carry a huge amount of kit around with me.

I'll pick a couple of images out over the weekend and share them.

Thanks Matthew, looking forward to them.

The kit doesn't matter a great deal so long as it works for you and it's always with you when a picture presents itself. Despite a C&G (and a bit of luck) I have always tried more to see under the skin of a landscape than take 'technically good' photos and try and get something out from it's history.  I don't know what history you are interested in but I was helped a lot - when starting out - by reading Simon Schama's book ' Landscape & Memory' and ' In Search of England' by Michael Wood.

(It's fair to say that reading for the sake of my photography kick-started my interest in history again, so one hobby turned into two.)

It's your feeling and thoughts about the place (and luck if conditions match) that matter more if you can communicate them. That's not easy to get over to others, so you just have to hope they like the result without knowing what was going on in your head.

I have lots of favourite landscape photographers but the real stand-out, for me at least, was Bill Brandt (despite his having achieved more fame as a photo journalist for Picture Post.)

Edit your photos mercilessly. (That means deleting everything you don't really like and does NOT mean 'edit' in the sense of Photoshopping it.)

If you come home after a week away with only one really good photograph, then it wasn't a waste. (In fact there was a time i'd count that as a triumph!)

 

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I heard some good things about old Sony ES amps, how do you rate them?

Some of them are very good. The TA-F 770ES is a super amp for the prices you can buy them at.

Other amps to look out for are the Onkyo Integra Pre-powers. Kenwood / Trio L series - they had links with Accuphase. Accupahse are good too, but tend to attract premium pricing. Pioneer Exclusives are worth looking out for. Sansui AU 9500's. Yamaha made some monster amps, including the MX-10000. JVC M series. Nakamichi CA's and PA's.

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Well I'm not a hifi expert in that I've not heard loads of different pieces of kit.  Some of the people who post here seem to have a view on everything under the sun and frankly I don't know how they find the time to have heard all this kit, they must do almost nothing else! less than £2k and have what I wanted, a system that reproduces music acceptably close to the sound I hear in a concert hall.

Chris

Somehow, you have made being knowledgeable sound like an insult.

I have had an interest for nearly 40 years. I grew up with mates who were into hifi, so we listened to each others systems....which were fairly budget back then, with brands like Trio, Technics, Leak, Wharfedale, Goodmans, Tangent, Keesonic, Aiwa, Videoton, Sansui, Sony, Teleton, Goldring and Audiotronic.

i know two good knowledgeable dealers with whom i have a good relationship.....one for 30 years and one for 6. They have music nights as well as evenings where guest speakers from different companys, give talks and demos eg. John Carrick (Atlas) and Touraj Moghaddam (Vertere and used to be Mr.Roksan)).

I make it my business to keep my ear to the ground and often hear different stuff when I call in, so between that and going to the odd show, I have heard quite a bit of kit..........no big deal really, or very time consuming. In fact, tomorrow I'm off to hear some Kef Blades (which I have no intention of buying), but the dealer has them out on demo for a while.

Not an insult, I'm just surprised anybody finds the time.  There is no way I could fit what you describe into my life now even though I am retired.  When I was working I didn't even have time to listen to music much and now I'm catching up.  I guess hifi is your main interest whereas to me it's simply a means of listening to music.

Chris

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CnoEvil wrote:

Covenanter wrote:

Well I'm not a hifi expert in that I've not heard loads of different pieces of kit.  Some of the people who post here seem to have a view on everything under the sun and frankly I don't know how they find the time to have heard all this kit, they must do almost nothing else! less than £2k and have what I wanted, a system that reproduces music acceptably close to the sound I hear in a concert hall.

Chris

Somehow, you have made being knowledgeable sound like an insult.

I have had an interest for nearly 40 years. I grew up with mates who were into hifi, so we listened to each others systems....which were fairly budget back then, with brands like Trio, Technics, Leak, Wharfedale, Tangent, Keesonic, Aiwa, Videoton, Sansui, Sony, Teleton, Goldring and Audiotronic.

i know two good knowledgeable dealers with whom i have a good relationship.....one for 30 years and one for 6. They have music nights as well as evenings where guest speakers from different companys, give talks and demos eg. John Carrick (Atlas) and Touraj Moghaddam (Vertere and used to be Mr.Roksan)).

I make it my business to keep my ear to the ground and often hear different stuff when I call in, so between that and going to the odd show, I have heard quite a bit of kit..........no big deal really, or very time consuming. In fact, tomorrow I'm off to hear some Kef Blades (which I have no intention of buying), but the dealer has them out on demo for a while.

It's the modern way Cno.

The country is so dumbed down that anyone who shows an in depth knowledge of anything is automatically considered a nerd or a geek and in not having 'a life'.

I don't know where you get that from!  I didn't say any of those things.  I merely expressed surprise that people find the time to hear so much kit as I know I wouldn't have.

Chris

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Not an insult, I'm just surprised anybody finds the time.  There is no way I could fit what you describe into my life now even though I am retired.  When I was working I didn't even have time to listen to music much and now I'm catching up.  I guess hifi is your main interest whereas to me it's simply a means of listening to music.

Chris

It is far from my main interest and would have made up a tiny percentage of my time compared to other things (Music, Tennis, Horse Riding, Golf, Skiing, Fitness Training, Hockey, and a little bit of photography).  Helping raise 4 kids and doing a job that used to take 7 days a week and 12 hours a day, for 6 months of the year, didn't help either.

The trouble is that I have been grounded due to back problems, and latterly a back op......so I come on here far to much, to talk about it.

Music is the main goal, but I'm very fussy about how it sounds, which has meant becoming somewhat knowledgeable about the means to produce it.

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To the OP, which items of vintage kit have you tried and liked so far? this may get people coming in with some suggestions for you of exactly what to look out for second hand. 

Hi Blackdawn.

I still own and like three of the 70s Sansui AU series amps - AU2200, AU2900 (essentially the black faced and I think marginally more powerful version of the 2200), and the AU4400.  These have a lovely fluid sound and are also just great fun to listen to.  At 10wpc the smallest needs sensitive speakers, but it seems to work well with my 1985 KEF C30s, which are a two way sealed box design but around 90dB sensitivity.  I have also previously had an AU3900 which sounded sublime with a pair of KEF Coda IIIs (the predecessor to the C30) and I could kick myself for moving those two pieces on.  I'd love an AU-999 or an AU-9900 but in common with a lot of big vintage amps, prices are high these days.

I've also dabbled with Pioneer stuff in the past, principally an SA-508.  Slightly brighter than the Sansui amps but again tremendous fun and a really open sound.  Another piece I wish I still had.  I've also tried an SX-450 receiver some time ago but found that just a bit too cosy sounding.  I'd certainly have a x08 or x800 series amp again, but the bigger ones have shot up in price in recent years.

I liked a Technics SU-V55 I had for a while and, again, I should have kept it but the whole 'new equipment should be better' thing got in the way - a 'thing' I need to let go of I think now.  I wouldn't mind hearing one of the older Technics models at some point.

JVC is another brand I've been impressed with on occasion, as is Trio/Kenwood. Neither brand has quite captured people's imagination like Sansui or Pioneer and so you can get much more for much less.  However, it is some of the smaller Trio amps that I've liked the sound of.

I've never tried any of the better Akai amps and have often wondered about them.

Outside of the Japanese brands, some years ago I heard a Leak Stereo 30 (transistor) and thought it very persuasive sounding.  I've never ruled out the idea of having something similar myself.

Regarding valves, I've never owned a valve amp but I have heard a few and I've always liked the sound.  Probably the best system I've heard was powered by a valve amp (Unison Research) with floorstanding Opera speakers with a vinyl front end.  It was like being in the same room as the orchestra.  Way above any sort of achievable budget for me though.  Eventually, if funds allow, I may be tempted to look at the Icon Audio range more closely.  I've heard their amps briefly and enjoyed them.  This would be some time away though.

 

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Root and branch clear out Matthew. Pick the best Sansui ( because you like it) and sell everything else.

Get the remaining amp serviced to give it another 20 years.

Wait for the best pair of Codas / C30s to come along on eBay. (I've seen some very smart ones appear now and then.)

It might mean a few weeks without a hi-fi but you won't have the hassle of auditioning because the Sansui and KEFs are so familiar to you already.

 

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You could be right Chebby.  I've actually already got a good pair of C30s, though might be tempted by a really nice pair of Coda IIIs at some point - they are even nicer than the C30s in my experience.

Does anybody know any good places to get a 70s Sansui amp serviced?

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Does anybody know any good places to get a 70s Sansui amp serviced?

This place looks thorough...

http://www.amplabs.co.uk/

http://www.amplabs.co.uk/sansui_amplifier_service.htm

.... Sansui amps (with normal chassis and up to 60wpc) would cost £150. (Plus courier charges.)*

Maybe ring for a chat about yours and look up some other companies for quotes.

Still, not a lot if the amp is good for another couple of decades afterwards.

A testimonial here.

*(You should get a LOT more than this from sale of your other kit though.)

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That is really expensive for what they are going to do. For £150 you would expect a full recap not just a 'check' that the components are still in tolerance. 

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Not an insult, I'm just surprised anybody finds the time.  There is no way I could fit what you describe into my life now even though I am retired.  When I was working I didn't even have time to listen to music much and now I'm catching up.  I guess hifi is your main interest whereas to me it's simply a means of listening to music.

Chris

It is far from my main interest and would have made up a tiny percentage of my time compared to other things (Music, Tennis, Horse Riding, Golf, Skiing, Fitness Training, Hockey, and a little bit of photography).  Helping raise 4 kids and doing a job that used to take 7 days a week and 12 hours a day, for 6 months of the year, didn't help either.

The trouble is that I have been grounded due to back problems, and latterly a back op......so I come on here far to much, to talk about it.

Music is the main goal, but I'm very fussy about how it sounds, which has meant becoming somewhat knowledgeable about the means to produce it.

I'm sorry to hear of your back problems.  I have a bad back too (although greatly improved due to modern medication) and know how debilitating that can be.

I think I'm fussy about how things sound too but maybe there are degrees of fussiness?  I was listening to more Haydn String Quartets this morning (my currect listening project is to hear all of them, there are over 60, the precise number depends what you count) but in this heat I have to have my window open and living on a busy road in the centre of Birmingham there is nearly constant traffic even on a Saturday.  This was a far from perfect listening environment and yet I was perfectly able to listen only to the music and to marvel at Haydn's inventiveness and the quality of the string playing.

Chris

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That is really expensive for what they are going to do. For £150 you would expect a full recap not just a 'check' that the components are still in tolerance. 

I am not experienced in these matters so can you give Matthew links to some more cost effective companies? (You seem much better acquainted with what a service should cost and what should be included.)

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