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This is crux of the problem: The sound you're looking for isn't possible with a modest budget. Need to cash in your chips and splash a little on a valve or A class amp or something that'll give you distinct uplift.

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I heard some good things about old Sony ES amps, how do you rate them?

Battleship build, powerful.......mines at least 20 years old and was serviced about 6 months ago. I am looking at other options but it will have to be a major step up

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plastic penguin wrote:

This is crux of the problem: The sound you're looking for isn't possible with a modest budget. Need to cash in your chips and splash a little on a valve or A class amp or something that'll give you distinct uplift.

Or in my case active speakers.

I know they are different and I know that their are perfectly good reasons why some will never get on with them but the big advantage for me is that the strengths and weaknesses of such speakers are completly different from the strengths and weaknesses of comparably priced conventional passive amp speaker combinations.

They are cheap to, if you have a computer, a pair of very decent 6" , 120 watt actives and a dac can be had for well under £200, a pair of Adam A5x or Artist models and a Bushmaster dac for under £1k, and for a little more the outstanding Quested S7r and 'you know what' 9 come into the picture.

Would I prefer a Devialet 170 and a pair of Sonus Fabers, probably, but look at the difference in cost!

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plastic penguin wrote:

This is crux of the problem: The sound you're looking for isn't possible with a modest budget. 

 

:clap: . 

Like most things, well pretty much most things ,you get what you pay for. Really good grain free trannie amps are flippin expensive 

Not flying the valves flag here Matthew but it would be a good experiment if you could get your mits on a half decent valve amp be it SET or PP and live with it for a while to get attuned to the presentation, dosnt matter if its 10w or 60w. Then go back to trannies for a listen.  I bet you will put your finger on it then.

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floyd droid wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

This is crux of the problem: The sound you're looking for isn't possible with a modest budget. 

 

:clap: . 

Like most things, well pretty much most things ,you get what you pay for. Really good grain free trannie amps are flippin expensive 

Not flying the valves flag here Matthew but it would be a good experiment if you could get your mits on a half decent valve amp be it SET or PP and live with it for a while to get attuned to the presentation, dosnt matter if its 10w or 60w. Then go back to trannies for a listen.  I bet you will put your finger on it then.

The amplifier in my 'proper' system is an EL34 based model in push-pull. 30 or so watts a channel and a quite outstanding SQ.

Nothing unusual design wise, just phenomonally well built and 'voiced' by a master of the art. Far too expensive for me in normal circumstances but it was a gift and I am hanging on to it!

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I hear many still saying that old products still better than new ones. 

many electronic still made in USA or europe and have good quality.

now many are made in china. 

 

people also saying that old speaker also sound better than new ones. 

Why not so many development on speaker ? meanwhile other part is evolving fast 

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utomo wrote:

I hear many still saying that old products still better than new ones. 

many electronic still made in USA or europe and have good quality.

now many are made in china. 

 

people also saying that old speaker also sound better than new ones. 

Why not so many development on speaker ? meanwhile other part is evolving fast 

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utomo wrote:

I hear many still saying that old products still better than new ones. 

many electronic still made in USA or europe and have good quality.

now many are made in china. 

 

people also saying that old speaker also sound better than new ones. 

Why not so many development on speaker ? meanwhile other part is evolving fast 

 

Speakers have developed quite a bit over the last 20 years, just look at the new driver materials, different shape of cabinets, more active speakers available. What other parts do you mean? Amps and cd players are hardly changing.

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The first amp I bought was a Sansui AU101 (in about 1973?) and at the time I thought it was fantastic value for money.

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The amplifier in my 'proper' system is an EL34 based model in push-pull. 30 or so watts a channel and a quite outstanding SQ.

Nothing unusual design wise, just phenomonally well built and 'voiced' by a master of the art. Far too expensive for me in normal circumstances but it was a gift and I am hanging on to it!

And I was begining to like you  ;). Grove ?Tricker ? 

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davedotco wrote:

Would I prefer a Devialet 170 and a pair of Sonus Fabers, probably

Now that sounds like a most excellent idea.  Blum 3

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floyd droid wrote:

davedotco wrote:

The amplifier in my 'proper' system is an EL34 based model in push-pull. 30 or so watts a channel and a quite outstanding SQ.

Nothing unusual design wise, just phenomonally well built and 'voiced' by a master of the art. Far too expensive for me in normal circumstances but it was a gift and I am hanging on to it!

And I was begining to like you  ;). Grove ?Tricker ? 

No worries, I can probably sort that out...... :shame:

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davedotco wrote:

Would I prefer a Devialet 170 and a pair of Sonus Fabers, probably

Now that sounds like a most excellent idea.  Blum 3

Can I put it on your tab..........?

 

Back in the 90s the Electa Amator was one of my favourites and I supplied a pair to a chap with the Electro pre-power.

One of the finest sounds I have ever heard, short of  'megabucks' systems, my love of both brands stays with me to this day.

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No worries, I can probably sort that out...... :shame:

Erm ,not so sure my post came across as meant  Smile

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   Just go retro..........:)

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