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RE: usb cables expensive v cheap

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

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ifor wrote:

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

 

Sorry Ifor, what is your point?    puzzled

 

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RE: usb cables expensive v cheap

My point is that WHF reviewers have given exceeding favourable reviews to some USB cables.  Mr Roth is obviously of the opinion that the reviews are rubbish.  Therefore, I ask why we should trust reviews of Roth products when reviewed by the same team?

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Borrow because the question by OP is related to cost of the cable.... To avoid him spending extreme amount of money unnecesarily.

This is hifi and music. Make a decision base on what one hears, not based on what other people hear, or whatever a 6 page long thread on 1s and 0s discussion trying to prove or whatever a review says. YMYD.

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ifor wrote:

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

 

So you are saying WhatHiFi reviews are influenced by owners views?

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ifor wrote:

My point is that WHF reviewers have given exceeding favourable reviews to some USB cables.  Mr Roth is obviously of the opinion that the reviews are rubbish.  Therefore, I ask why we should trust reviews of Roth products when reviewed by the same team?

I think you should be asking why we should trust any WHF reviews if they gave favourable reviews of USB cables. I am certainly more favourably inclined to Roth products now I know he is not stupid.

 

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hammill wrote:

ifor wrote:

My point is that WHF reviewers have given exceeding favourable reviews to some USB cables.  Mr Roth is obviously of the opinion that the reviews are rubbish.  Therefore, I ask why we should trust reviews of Roth products when reviewed by the same team?

I think you should be asking why we should trust any WHF reviews if they gave favourable reviews of USB cables. I am certainly more favourably inclined to Roth products now I know he is not stupid.

 

 

excellent!

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Well said hammill.  good job

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BigH wrote:

So you are saying WhatHiFi reviews are influenced by owners views?

No, I didn't say that.

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ifor wrote:

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

 

Whatever it is, it isn't a Ratner moment, as he's not slagging off his own products.

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BenLaw wrote:

ifor wrote:

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

 

Whatever it is, it isn't a Ratner moment, as he's not slagging off his own products.

True, he's not, but nonetheless I think I'll follow them with less interest than before.

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Source 4) Technics SL-7 linear tracking turntable.

Roksan Kandy L3 amp, Spendor A5 speakers.

Other rooms: more Airport Expresses and Homeplugs with Denon AV system and Denon Mini system. 

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ifor wrote:

My point is that WHF reviewers have given exceeding favourable reviews to some USB cables.  Mr Roth is obviously of the opinion that the reviews are rubbish.  Therefore, I ask why we should trust reviews of Roth products when reviewed by the same team?

The reviews might be absolute nonsense but they are valuable in helping (or not, depending on review result) sales of products. You can take from a magazine review what you will, but it's better to make an informed decision based on actual exprience and using a little common sense and knowledge, rather than being sucked in by marketing, paid for or otherwise.

As for Roth AV? I've no idea of the products made/sold, but I'm wary of all reviews regardless.

As someone has said before, fools will always be fooled all of the time.

 

 

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ifor wrote:

ROTH AV wrote:

An audible difference between USB cables ?

Really ?

Laughed so hard my bum bled.

I found this interesting.  I assume Mr Roth looks forward to / hopes for favourable reviews for his products from the WHF reviewing team, but with comment he's effectively said that we can't trust WHF reviews.  A bit of a Gerald Ratner moment methinks.

I don't get this. Are you saying that if my friend supports the English cricket team (as me), then I should be happy about his support for Manchester United (when I support Man City), simply because we both support the same team in cricket?

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I think it's clear Mr Roth should visit his GP.

 

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Funny!  excellent!

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