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RE: Marantz M-CR510 experience

You definitaly got a bad one there,mines been flawless out the box so far,hopefully your replacement will be fine

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RE: Marantz M-CR510 experience

Blimey, i'll have to link Marantz customer support to this conversation. In your example, did it Random play all files on your USB or just anything in or below your Artists folder ?  Was the 1st file played actually at the "Artist" folder level or a lower level folder ? Also were u using front or Rear USB ?

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

I received my Marantz M-CR610 and I am very satisfied so far. It sounds great paired with Monitor Audio RX1s in Sound Direct mode. I'm also pleased that functions such as the Media Server and iPod functions startup much quicker than the M-CR603. The Spotify function works well as well, although it won't play local files that you've imported from a playlist.

I personally don't find the plastic body as bad as other posters. Yes, the M-CR603 is more attractive but I'm happy with the trade-off of having other features such as gapless playback. The one thing that seriously needs an overhaul is the Marantz Remote App. It really is terrible and I'm using a combination of the remote and the PlugPlayer app instead.

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

If you have a USB memory stick can u check out Random on some mp3s in folders. cheers.

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

Penbat

You'll have to trust me on this one, if Marantz say that the 610 can't do random then they have got it wrong: the 610 definitely does shuffle/random and it does it via the front and rear USB ports. You'll have to try it out and or get someone with a 510 to do it as well to confirm this as I don't know about the 510 but I am assuming it would be no different..but could be wrong of course but why is the button on the remote if not? No CD drive on the thing..

Via front USB (flash drive inserted) select the folder that contains all the music you want to play and press play. Wait till the first track actually begins playing and then press the random/shuffle button on the remote. It may take a few seconds to register when it is first indexing the drive contents so wait a second if the shuffle icon doesn't immediately show up on the OLED display.  Via the rear USB with a portable drive attached it is exactly the same process.

Your music (or the music you want included in random playback) must be under a single folder in the root and then subfolders under it. You can't shuffle the drive contents only a root folder. As you can see in my previous post I organise my music so that not all music is included when I choose shuffle. I could though put everything under one folder called 'Music' and play everything but that would include audio books, and other test files etc which I don't want included in random play...and I wouldn't organise it like that anyway.

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

Thanks. I currently have:

USB drive:

\

     \ artist 1

          \ album 1

          \ album 2 etc.

     \ artist 2 etc.

          \ album 1

          \ album 2 etc.

 

i could change it to:

USB drive:

\

    \ Music

         \artist 1

              \ album 1

              \ album 2 etc.

         \ artist 2 etc.

              \ album 1

             \ album 2 etc.

 

But I only have music files (Mp3s) in the album folders. Where is the file you first play positioned ? Do you have to have at least 1 file in the folder (Music folder in my example) immediately below the root  ?

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

Correction:

I was in error. The 610 WILL actually play the contents of a whole drive randomly, not just the contents of root folders. I had a USB stick in the front USB port playing files randomly (I was busy and just left it playing after testing for Penbat) and later switched to the rear port with my 500gb portable drive attached and after it had finished 'loading' it began playback straight away, but from a subfolder within a folder called Ectoplasm.com in the root and then from a subfolder within the Classical folder in the root etc. So, yeah, it will even shuffle the entire contents of a connected drive if you need that.

 

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

Penbat, You could just create a folder called music or something and move the entire contents inside of that because it could be a lot easier to random play the lot that way (the random play for the whole drive is a bit of an oddity). That is, you then select the 'music folder' and press play not any particular file inside of it.  The first song in the first folder will play usually and then after you turn on the random function it'll select files from anything under the music folder. You can just skip to the next track if you get fed up of hearing the same song that starts all the time.

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

Thanks but i still need clarifcation of the positioning of the 1st file played that initates the Random. Can it be absolutely anywhere or does it have to be in a folder directly below the root (Music in above example)  but not a subfolder  ? Anyway ill be testing this out on my 510, may take an hour or so to organise.

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That is, you then select the 'music folder' and press play not any particular file

Try it and you'll understand. You hit play when the folder is selected. As stated already it will be the first file in the first folder...whichever of your artists is first...that'll be the one. Unless you happen to switch from the front USB to the rear USB with random play already on and then it could be anything on the drive. That's as much as I can offer you, sorry.

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Ahaa - you are so right. What a mess tho, im sure quite a few people will get the same problem i did and Marantz customer services just threw their hands up.  If i press Play on an Artist folder i get random plays just for that artist. It was partly my fault tho - i tended to press Enter when i should have just pressed Play but I think that was because i was confused as i wasnt getting anywhere not realising that i had to create a top level folder to make it work properly for the whole USB. So i could have got the Artist folder to work properly at least with Random anyway under my previous set up but i didnt realise. I will let Marantz customer services know and they will have to eat humble pie. They have shot themselves in the foot about this. They really should say in their instruction manual that a single top level folder must be set up if Random play is required for a whole USB. Marantz customer service told me that the chip set for USB only supported Random within the current folder. They strongly suggested that Random functionality was better with Music Server which was wrong, saying that USB was just a secondary bolt on and the 510 and 610s were primarily network devices. Also on USB it is sort of correct that Random only operates on the current folder but that has to be qualified as it also operates on any sub folders as well which i didnt realise.

The requirement of a top level folder isnt obvious. It isnt needed for the Denon RCD-M39DAB Micro for example for Random to work fine but it does have a "Folder mode" and a "All mode" so maybe Marantz should have had the same. Having a top level folder is obviously the way to circumvent the lack of an "All mode" on the Marantz.

I never had any problems with Random on Music Server but actually, a top level folder called "mp3s" was in place anyway so that explains why.

I even gave them a stinker Amazon review !

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Marantz-M-CR510-Melody-Network-Receiver/dp/B00DUCZBUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378726735&sr=8-1&keywords=Marantz+M-CR510

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RE: I received my Marantz M-CR610

penbat wrote:

I even gave them a stinker Amazon review !

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Marantz-M-CR510-Melody-Network-Receiver/dp/B00DUCZBUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378726735&sr=8-1&keywords=Marantz+M-CR510

Why not just return it and buy something that does what you need?

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chebby wrote:

penbat wrote:

I even gave them a stinker Amazon review !

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Marantz-M-CR510-Melody-Network-Receiver/dp/B00DUCZBUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378726735&sr=8-1&keywords=Marantz+M-CR510

Why not just return it and buy something that does what you need?

 

Everything is cool now and im happy, but its seriously embarrassing that I had to work out the solution to the problem the hard way and was very lucky to have the assistance of SiUK. There should have been info about how to set up Random in the instruction manual. Also the info i got from Marantz customer services was seriously inadequate and misleading. I approached them at the start and they could have saved me all this. I didnt automatically accept Marantz customer services initial response. I went to the trouble of sending them 4 supplementary questions in the vain hope of further clarification from them. Ironically, I now understand Random on the 510 better than they do.

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RE: Marantz M-CR510 experience

Hi Guys,

what's the max volume u play on your 610/510? Mine usually 20-25 for cd audio on 610.

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RE: Marantz M-CR510 experience

SiUK - on another issue, do you ever get "File Format Error" flash up for about a second after one mp3 finishes and before the next mp3 starts ? I thought it may be because i have a few non mp3 files included such as jpg artwork but im not sure. I only get it on USB not Music Server.

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