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RE: KEF LS50 disappointment :(

Yes I quite agree more bass is often worse bass rather than better, nothing worst than boomy bass or the cabinets resonating, you want to hear the music not that.

Even with better amp Im not sure the LS50 will suit the OP. How about trying some floorstanders they should have more bass or buy a sub?

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RE: KEF LS50 disappointment :(

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders. If you've had floorstanders previously and then moved to stand mounts it's hard not to feel as though your missing something.

Sure they'll probably give you better clarity at the same price point & may work better for smaller rooms & listening preferences. But you will miss the extra sense of scale, which it sounds like you are.

At least this has been my experience.

I'd go and demo at a dealer where you can listen to stands vs floors side by side, you should get a pretty immediate indication. Then sell on or trade in the LS50, at the price you paid you should come out about even.

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RE: KEF LS50 disappointment :(

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

 

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Peptdi wrote:

concept 20"s

Hi peptdi

Q Acoustics Concept 20's are good speakers Smile

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RE: Had a couple of friends who

MUSICRAFT wrote:

Peptdi wrote:

concept 20"s

Hi peptdi

Q Acoustics Concept 20's are good speakers Smile

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

is that a speaker you sell 

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steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

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RE: KEF LS50 disappointment :(

davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

 

Are you saying the LS50s are mediocre but highly acclaimed?

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BenLaw wrote:

davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

 

Are you saying the LS50s are mediocre but highly acclaimed?

Reading through my post again, several times, I can confidently say that I did not.

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davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

You make a reasonable point, albeit a touch harsh IMO.

I guess I was just trying to say that if the OP's previous reference was a floorstanding speaker & then he moves to a stand mount he might feel like he has lost something. Not all bad & he might enjoy the trade off, but if he is anything like me I never got there.

I agree with you about the reading of reviews as opposed to a good demo & listening to the advice of an experienced dealer. But I still find the internet an invaluable tool for researching & learning, not a substitute just an addition.

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davedotco wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

 

Are you saying the LS50s are mediocre but highly acclaimed?

Reading through my post again, several times, I can confidently say that I did not.

 

Do you think that about the LS50s?

 

What contemporary products does that view apply to?

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Neuphonix wrote:

davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

You make a reasonable point, albeit a touch harsh IMO.

I guess I was just trying to say that if the OP's previous reference was a floorstanding speaker & then he moves to a stand mount he might feel like he has lost something. Not all bad & he might enjoy the trade off, but if he is anything like me I never got there.

I agree with you about the reading of reviews as opposed to a good demo & listening to the advice of an experienced dealer. But I still find the internet an invaluable tool for researching & learning, not a substitute just an addition.

So, answer me this.

You go into a dealer interested in upgrading your amp to the latest highly aclaimed model.

The dealer seta up an appropriate system,plays you said amplifier, then plays you a similarly priced but clearly superior amplifier from a different manufacturer. 

What is your reaction?

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BenLaw wrote:

davedotco wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

davedotco wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:

Neuphonix wrote:

Sounds to me like the issue is more one of stand mounts Vs floorstanders...

I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds to me like the OP may want some bigger speakers with more bass

This is primarily about expectation.

The hi-fi business is about hyping up product, much of which is mediocre but highly acclaimed. It is now very difficult for a knowledgable enthusiast/dealer to suggest that some highly regarded product or systems are actually not very good. In any case buyers are more likely to behave reviewers than they are dealers or perhaps even the evidence of their own ears.

No skin off my nose, I'm not in the business anymore so it is not my problem, but the hi fi industry is now so dumbed down that I am surprised anybody bothers anymore.

 

Are you saying the LS50s are mediocre but highly acclaimed?

Reading through my post again, several times, I can confidently say that I did not.

 

Do you think that about the LS50s?

 

What contemporary products does that view apply to?

 

In order.

No.

Most sub £600 components aimed at the mass market.

Edit. Should be more precise, most "sub £600 components aimed at the mass market" that I have actually listened to.

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RE: KEF LS50 disappointment :(

So 'this' isn't primarily about expectation then?

 

OOI which do you consider to be the justifiably hyped sub-£600 components?

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David,

I am taking on board your opinions, I just wonder if it's necessary for you to sound quite so aggressive - this is obviously a bug bear of yours

 

 

 

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