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Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Had this reply back from Paul Darwin, Rega.

Quite surprised that the Fono MK2 is better than the Elicit R phono!

 

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I have now had the definitive explanation from the designer, Terry Bateman, that the Brio R and Elicit R are fundamentally the same phono stages, but the Fono MM is rather different giving a better performance than either of the embedded / included phono stages.

The reasons form this would be subject to pages of technical stuff, but for reasons of brevity I will not include here !!

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Sales must be down on the Fono...

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Yea there amps use the same components as the fono mini, why spend more than 10% on just the amps phono stage. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok i just just made that up but then again it could well be true, I can't see them redesigning special phono stages, order different components, etc. just for there amps, or the other way, is there budget phono stage taken from there amps?   

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

They may or may not (share the same components) but just having the stage isolated from the rest of the amplifier, with its own power supply, lay -out, enclosure, shielding, ground and interconnect will likely yield different results, for better or worse.

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

New here to the forums, and just happened to see this post.   This is really surprising !    I have an Elicit-R and the half width Rega DAC, but I'm heading to my local shop on Saturday to pick up my very first turntable (RP3).    

I hope the phono stage in the Elicit-R is of sufficient quality for my RP3.  I can't imagine it's not, especially since the RP3 with Elys 2 cartridge isn't their high end stuff anyway.  

Hopefully it will be fine, and if I ever get an RP6 or RP8 I'll budget for an Aria phono stage  :grin:

 

 

 

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

it will be more than adequate

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Is there a contradiction in these two statements, both from Rega:

1. "Brio R and Elicit R are fundamentally the same phono stages"

2. "The Elex-R is a sublime blend of the Brio-R design with the power circuits and advanced phono stage of the Elicit-R"

 

 

 

 

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Marketing init!

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

stevebrock wrote:

The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio

 

Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) Smile

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Al ears wrote:

stevebrock wrote:

The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio

 

Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) Smile

I am in agreement Al

 

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Are you bored Steve ,lol  :grin:

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keep having a peek in 

 

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Aye , I know what you mean mate.  Gary had to flog your Gyro  Wink

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

stevebrock wrote:

keep having a peek in 

 

Then you will have noticed my horrendous typos in my last post. Well it was early and my fingers hadn't woken up. Smile

 

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RE: Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

Al ears wrote:

stevebrock wrote:

The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio

 

Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) Smile

Thanks for the feedback guys.  It confirms my suspicions that the Elicit 2 cartridge is "a cheapish mm" and the phono stage in the elicit-r will be "sufficient".    Still disappointed that they didn't put an improved phono stage in the elicit-r, that thing wasn't cheap.  

 

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