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Does anyone have or heard how loud AVI ADM9.1 go? thinking of getting a pair and pairing it with B&W PV1D but want the mid/high to me loud as i knoe the sub will do the base just fine. Thanks 

Dynaudio BM5As are around 117dB @ 1m, the ADM9s are louder. My room is approx 6m by 4m and the BM5As would be loud enough for most in this room, but I bought the ADMs for more headroom if/when I move to a larger place and also to keep the speakers well away from clipping.

Every speaker has its limits, but for most home listening, they'd be more than adequate.

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richardw42 wrote:

I'll admit the top figure is blinking loud. 

PI like loud music but I'm not sure i get anywhere near that figure. I don't think it would be that pleasant. 

I wouldn't think it likely I'd want to turn them up quite that much.

 

Some years ago I sold my M3 to a guy who had done some racing. To be blunt he tested it to its full potential. I was quite put out. Just because it was capable  I was never inclined to put it to that test. But I was always confident it could perform to the levels I wanted. 

Why the politicians type answer to my simple question? All I was looking for was a straight and simple answer to my question.

 

I will repeat the question again:

So, what do you think is more likely to be an accurate figure for how loud the AVI ADM 9.1's will go?

100 dbs at 10 metres / 117 dbs peak per speaker at 1 metre

or 91 dbs at 10 metres / 108 dbs peak  per speaker at 1 metre?

 

Fr0g and Messiah, you are also welcome to answer this question, if you wish.

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lindsayt wrote:

richardw42 wrote:

I'll admit the top figure is blinking loud. 

PI like loud music but I'm not sure i get anywhere near that figure. I don't think it would be that pleasant. 

I wouldn't think it likely I'd want to turn them up quite that much.

 

Some years ago I sold my M3 to a guy who had done some racing. To be blunt he tested it to its full potential. I was quite put out. Just because it was capable  I was never inclined to put it to that test. But I was always confident it could perform to the levels I wanted. 

Why the politicians type answer to my simple question? All I was looking for was a straight and simple answer to my question.

 

I will repeat the question again:

So, what do you think is more likely to be an accurate figure for how loud the AVI ADM 9.1's will go?

100 dbs at 10 metres / 117 dbs peak per speaker at 1 metre

or 91 dbs at 10 metres / 108 dbs peak  per speaker at 1 metre?

Fr0g and Messiah, you are also welcome to answer this question, if you wish.

I've done it for you, with a little help from Dynaudio.

If 100dBs @ 10m is proportional to 117dBs @ 1m, then the BM5Aa can manage that at peak. As I have said, the ADMs provide more headroom than the BM5As, (which I also had) and are louder, but quite how much would need to be tested. Loud enough in most cases though for sure.

Back to back, the ADM9s were obviously louder than the BM5As and stayed composed at those levels as well.

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That's because its a daft question. I've never measured any speaker let alone AVIs. 

You're asking for an opinion from someone not qualified to give one.

100db @ 10 metres can't be far off a road drill can it ?

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Just wondering if anyone is thinking about answering Chebby's recent question...?

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So many replys  very mixed if they are a good speaker to get or bad. They are loud thats the main thing and sure they sound as good as they look. But think you guys are right will deffo have to test them out before i get them, thank for all your replys and sorry if i have caused arguments did not think that would happen.

 

I current have the B&W CM8 with the Rotel RCX -1500 i thought it would blow me away (loudness) the sound does sound amazing must say and it is nearly where i want it but the base does not seem to keep up, it sounds and looks like if it could do any louder (currently clipps at vol 75, goes to 87) the base cones could not handle it as they looks like they are going to blow off, they sound like they are at there limit with my dance / house music as its quite heavy base the shop owner said If i swoped my current amp for the RC- 1580 and the RB-1582 power amplifer it would fix all my problem the base would be better and it could go louder but is this true? can you really push 5" base cones? and putting more power in them when it already does not seem to handel my current one doesint seem true? or will it? 

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So many replys  very mixed if they are a good speaker to get or bad. They are loud thats the main thing and sure they sound as good as they look. But think you guys are right will deffo have to test them out before i get them, thank for all your replys and sorry if i have caused arguments did not think that would happen.

 

I current have the B&W CM8 with the Rotel RCX -1500 i thought it would blow me away (loudness) the sound does sound amazing must say and it is nearly where i want it but the base does not seem to keep up, it sounds and looks like if it could do any louder (currently clipps at vol 75, goes to 87) the base cones could not handle it as they looks like they are going to blow off, they sound like they are at there limit with my dance / house music as its quite heavy base the shop owner said If i swoped my current amp for the RC- 1580 and the RB-1582 power amplifer it would fix all my problem the base would be better and it could go louder but is this true? can you really push 5" base cones? and putting more power in them when it already does not seem to handel my current one doesint seem true? or will it? 

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the record spot wrote:

Just wondering if anyone is thinking about answering Chebby's recent question...?

Does anyone care?

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I doubt an amplifier change will do the job unless the one you now have falls short by a long margin.

Alongside the ADMs and depending on how far you want to push your budget, shortlist the following

Mackie HR824, Event Opal, Dynaudio BM6A MkIIl and Quested S8.

There should be something in that lot to suit your budget and taste.

 

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Overdose wrote:

I've done it for you, with a little help from Dynaudio.

If 100dBs @ 10m is proportional to 117dBs @ 1m, then the BM5Aa can manage that at peak. As I have said, the ADMs provide more headroom than the BM5As, (which I also had) and are louder, but quite how much would need to be tested. Loud enough in most cases though for sure.

Back to back, the ADM9s were obviously louder than the BM5As and stayed composed at those levels as well.

let me help you with your calculations further OD.

if what Dynaudio claims is true, i.e. 117dB peak @ 1m, it'll mean that with the amps on board (90W per driver of dynamic power) combined speaker sensitivity, by which I mean how efficient the driver tandem should be, will need to be about 97dB. now OD explain me, how is it possible for any 2-way speaker, not just active one, to achieve combined sensitivity of 97dB from drives which would most likely be 90 - 92dB efficient for the tweeter and about 86 - 88 dB efficient for the woofer? don't you think something smells fishy here regarding the specification quoted? (I'm guessing you don't but let's wait for your reply.)

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Thats what i thought @overdose i don't think it will either. Will check them out cheers.

My budget is £2500 thats what i paid for my current one and don't really want to spend anymore if possible, i'm happy with just active speakers and a sub if need be but not a huge one or something like my current set up, i know an all in one like i have may not be the best but i think maybe the speakers also is not made for dance / house music, sure they would suit someone perfect full vol with out clipping if they are playing jazz ect but not my kind of music.  Its my first sound systems with high end brands and if i'm honest my old technics sound system does a better job somehow at £400 haha

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How do all these calculations matter anyway? Takes all the fun away from listening to music... banging head against wall

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Overdose wrote:

I've done it for you, with a little help from Dynaudio.

If 100dBs @ 10m is proportional to 117dBs @ 1m, then the BM5Aa can manage that at peak. As I have said, the ADMs provide more headroom than the BM5As, (which I also had) and are louder, but quite how much would need to be tested. Loud enough in most cases though for sure.

Back to back, the ADM9s were obviously louder than the BM5As and stayed composed at those levels as well.

let me help you with your calculations further OD.

if what Dynaudio claims is true, i.e. 117dB peak @ 1m

and if your statement is also close to being accurate, ie 100dB @ 10m equating to 117dB @1m, then there is every likelyhood that that the ADM9s match or exceed this figure. In fact, having heard both back to back in the same room, I know that the ADM9s surpass the Dynaudios in the volume stakes by some margin, calculator not required (hearing protection mandatory though).

When you listen to the pair you will be able to take your own measurements, until then, you will have to rely upon your theoretical knowledge.

Perhaps you might like to ask Dynaudio how they came by their measurements, they might be able to help you better understand.

 

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