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Alternatives to Cyrus Stream X2?

What streamers, that read ALAC, are available that do not have a inbuilt DAC?

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RE: Alternatives to Cyrus Stream X2?

Interesting question since you already have 2 streamer, the apple tv and airport express. May I ask why you would  want another streamer but now without a dac... :?

The first thing that comes to mind when thinking of a streamer without dac is a NAS that sends over ethernet cable. (if it sent over optical or any other digital cable it would have gone through a dac, me thinks.

 

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My own preference would be for a NAS drive (with suitable server/client software) piping into a DAC via USB, but that wasn't what you asked ...

If you're after a music server (without DAC) from a hi-fi manufacturer, you might consider the Simaudio Moon MiND 180D. I know a couple of people on the 'Wam who use them and are very happy. I think the price is about the same as the Cyrus. I don't know how the functions compare.

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Superaintit wrote:

Interesting question since you already have 2 streamer, the apple tv and airport express. May I ask why you would  want another streamer but now without a dac... :?

The first thing that comes to mind when thinking of a streamer without dac is a NAS that sends over ethernet cable. (if it sent over optical or any other digital cable it would have gone through a dac, me thinks.

 

Yes, I can and do stream from the iMac in the study through the ATV in the sitting room to my current DAC.  But can I get better quality than this with a dedicated device reading the ALAC files stored on the iMac, or NAS, if I were to get one?

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matt49 wrote:

My own preference would be for a NAS drive (with suitable server/client software) piping into a DAC via USB, but that wasn't what you asked ...

If you're after a music server (without DAC) from a hi-fi manufacturer, you might consider the Simaudio Moon MiND 180D. I know a couple of people on the 'Wam who use them and are very happy. I think the price is about the same as the Cyrus. I don't know how the functions compare.

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thanks Matt.  I'll have a look at it.  I don't really understand why these things should be so expensive without DAC an analogue stage.

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RE: Alternatives to Cyrus Stream X2?

Save yourself a lot of money and get a Sonos Connect ( I know it has a DAC) just use the digital out. Much more reliable than Cyrus and easy to set up and excellent control interface.

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Crossie wrote:

Save yourself a lot of money and get a Sonos Connect ( I know it has a DAC) just use the digital out. Much more reliable than Cyrus and easy to set up and excellent control interface.


Am I right in thinking that hi res is not supported?
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RE: Cyrus Stream X2 alternatives?

Correct, hi res is not supported. Personally I can't hear the difference. How much hi res do you have?

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Superaintit wrote:

Interesting question since you already have 2 streamer, the apple tv and airport express. May I ask why you would  want another streamer but now without a dac... :?

The first thing that comes to mind when thinking of a streamer without dac is a NAS that sends over ethernet cable. (if it sent over optical or any other digital cable it would have gone through a dac, me thinks.

 

Yes, I can and do stream from the iMac in the study through the ATV in the sitting room to my current DAC.  But can I get better quality than this with a dedicated device reading the ALAC files stored on the iMac, or NAS, if I were to get one?

Yes, from what I've heard the Cyrus streamer is good, but its a lot of money for something (as far as I can tell) is no more than a Cyrus dac plus a streamer function.  I think the main difference you will hear is the difference in sound signature and detail between the Cyrus and the Rdac.

That's what I heard comparing arcam Rdac and Cyrus X dac when streaming from a mac mini. The Cyrus streamer I heard on a seperate occasion. So it not 100% certainty, which you could only get by comparing with a Cyrus streamer and a Cyrus dac in your system...

 

EDIT: I'm assuming here you stream through the Rdac as the Cyrus cd 8 has no digital in according to specs. Furthermore: I found the Cyrus remote with the streamer not so user friendly.

 

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Yes, from what I've heard the Cyrus streamer is good, but its a lot of money for something (as far as I can tell) is no more than a Cyrus dac plus a streamer function.  I think the main difference you will hear is the difference in sound signature and detail between the Cyrus and the Rdac.

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Just to clarify:

Stream X is a pure streamer no DAC

Stream XP is a streamer, DAC and preamp.

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Crossie wrote:

 

Yes, from what I've heard the Cyrus streamer is good, but its a lot of money for something (as far as I can tell) is no more than a Cyrus dac plus a streamer function.  I think the main difference you will hear is the difference in sound signature and detail between the Cyrus and the Rdac.

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Just to clarify:

Stream X is a pure streamer no DAC

Stream XP is a streamer, DAC and preamp.

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Yes, its just the streamer function I'm interested in, not the Cyrus DAC.

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RE: Alternatives to Cyrus Stream X2?

matt49 wrote:

My own preference would be for a NAS drive (with suitable server/client software) piping into a DAC via USB, but that wasn't what you asked ...

If you're after a music server (without DAC) from a hi-fi manufacturer, you might consider the Simaudio Moon MiND 180D. I know a couple of people on the 'Wam who use them and are very happy. I think the price is about the same as the Cyrus. I don't know how the functions compare.

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Matt

it's shame the dealers are so few and far between.  I'd love to try this one out.  It's so neat and small too.

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it's shame the dealers are so few and far between.  I'd love to try this one out.  It's so neat and small too.

It might be worth giving this chap a call. I'm told that, aside from making isolation platforms, he supplies Moon kit, and he may have a demo model he could mail to you. (I'm assuming you're in the UK.)

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Thanks Matt.

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RE: Alternatives to Cyrus Stream X2?

See signature. I think that the Sonos into my Cyrus 8 DAC is just about right. As all the Sonos outputs are on all of the time I have ABC the optical, coaxial and analogue outs into the Cyrus 8 and the 8 gives a fine account of itself. I guess that you will find the same with your kit. Unless you're going for overall upgrading the Sonos will easily suffice. I have posted elsewhere on here about my thoughts on HD, and I still can't hear a difference on my home set up. 

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