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RE: The ultimate shoot out?

rocketrazor wrote:

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bigboss wrote:

gel wrote:

bigboss wrote:

I put my thoughts on this thread:

 

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/shows/bristol-show-my-thoughts

 

Basically, the difference between OLED and 4K for 1080p content as well as SD content was much much closer than I thought. If they had not told me which TV is which, I would've struggled to identify it. 4K pictures on the 4K TV was absolutely glorious. The images just "popped out" with amazing clarity and depth. The fact that you can get a 65-inch 4K TV for the price of a 55-inch 1080p OLED sealed it for me in favour of 4K.

 

:cheers:   I think I am an OLED man from what I've seen.  

I think it will be wise to see consumer reports who've owned OLED sets for 12-24 months at least. There are already reports of burn in:

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/seven-problems-with-current-oled-televisions/

Lifespan of current OLED TVs is also unknown at the moment.

 

Yep, I am reading the owners thread on AV, but there are always bad reports on there eg Panasonic and all TVs.  The pixels concern me, but it's highly unlikely I will buy one this year, but you can get a 5 year warranty from John Lewis and any problems they will sort it.

im not sure pixel issues are covered under the warranty gel?

 

I think it might depend on what the pixel issue is, because you can get dead pixels - I am sure this would get you a replacement, and then lazy pixels, this could depend on how much you can see it or not, whether you could get something done about it.  OLED seem to suffer from both.

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RE: The ultimate shoot out?

Received an email from Vincent Teoh today:

 

Hi

First of all, I would like to personally thank you for submitting your 
registration for the  2014 TV shootout event. Your application has been 
been received, and you should receive a confirmation email within the 
next couple of days containing an invite to gain entry into the event 
(and for lunch).

As far as I'm aware, this is the only event in the UK this calendar year 
so far where the top TVs available to buy on the market today are 
calibrated and assembled in one room for side-by-side comparison. The 
retailer behind this event, Crampton and Moore, has gone to great 
lengths to secure a venue and supply the TVs, so if for any reason if 
you cannot make the event, please inform me as soon as possible, so that 
your reserved seat can be released for others.

The TVs have been set up, and I will be calibrating them over this 
upcoming bank holiday weekend in preparation for the actual event. Some 
provisional content we have lined up on the day include:

- Misc. 4K demo videos
- Netflix 4K (House of Cards Season 2)
- Blu-rays (Pacific Rim, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Kill 
Bill Vol. 2, Sin City, and maybe more)
- Recorded football broadcast

...just in case you haven't seen the movies, and want to watch them in 
advance to prevent spoilers. Smile

I will be tweeting the latest updates about the event as the days 
progress, so feel free to follow the HDTVTest Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/HDTVTest

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or questions. I look 
forward to seeing you on the 31st of May.

Warmest regards
Vincent Teoh
Editor & Professional Calibrator
HDTVTest.co.uk

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Just applied for this event, if it is accepted i hope to see some of you guys there.:)

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RE: The ultimate shoot out?

bigboss wrote:

Received an email from Vincent Teoh today:

- Misc. 4K demo videos
- Netflix 4K (House of Cards Season 2)
- Blu-rays (Pacific Rim, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Kill 
Bill Vol. 2, Sin City, and maybe more)
- Recorded football broadcast

https://twitter.com/HDTVTest

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or questions. I look 
forward to seeing you on the 31st of May.

Warmest regards
Vincent Teoh
Editor & Professional Calibrator
HDTVTest.co.uk

I can't attend, but I do have two Blu-ray suggestions, and one extra one.

1. Would it be possible to feed all the TVs some Standard Definition stuff. Yes, I know, these TVs are made for better, but there are still many television  channels that are broadcast on Standard Definition, especially if one does not have a Sky or Virgin etc package and has to rely on Freeview or Freesat. SD performance is still a useful thing to check.

2. The two Blu-ray suggestions (I think I may have mentioned this before!) would be (most importanly, a) the first three minutes of Blade Runner, the Final Cut. This has the actors' names in white appearing and disappearing against a black background, so it would be a good test of the televisions' black level performance. Then there's a wee bit with shuttlecraft zooming in and out. Also (b) Skyfall, the transition from Bond meeting Q in the art gallery into the night scenes. For good contrast, it's useful to get even just 30 seconds in the gallery before going to the night scenes in Shanghai, not going straight to the night scenes.

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HDTVfan wrote:

Just applied for this event, if it is accepted i hope to see some of you guys there.:)

just registered too!

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Recieved my invite.:)

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Just had confirmation too, see you there!!

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RE: The ultimate shoot out?

Son_of_SJ wrote:

bigboss wrote:

Received an email from Vincent Teoh today:

- Misc. 4K demo videos
- Netflix 4K (House of Cards Season 2)
- Blu-rays (Pacific Rim, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Kill 
Bill Vol. 2, Sin City, and maybe more)
- Recorded football broadcast

https://twitter.com/HDTVTest

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or questions. I look 
forward to seeing you on the 31st of May.

Warmest regards
Vincent Teoh
Editor & Professional Calibrator
HDTVTest.co.uk

I can't attend, but I do have two Blu-ray suggestions, and one extra one.

1. Would it be possible to feed all the TVs some Standard Definition stuff. Yes, I know, these TVs are made for better, but there are still many television  channels that are broadcast on Standard Definition, especially if one does not have a Sky or Virgin etc package and has to rely on Freeview or Freesat. SD performance is still a useful thing to check.

2. The two Blu-ray suggestions (I think I may have mentioned this before!) would be (most importanly, a) the first three minutes of Blade Runner, the Final Cut. This has the actors' names in white appearing and disappearing against a black background, so it would be a good test of the televisions' black level performance. Then there's a wee bit with shuttlecraft zooming in and out. Also (b) Skyfall, the transition from Bond meeting Q in the art gallery into the night scenes. For good contrast, it's useful to get even just 30 seconds in the gallery before going to the night scenes in Shanghai, not going straight to the night scenes.

Have emailed Vincent. Smile

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See you both there!

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Look forward to the report, don't make it too long though.   Wink      Smile

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Received a response from Vincent to Son_of_SJ's suggestions:

 

Many thanks for sending those suggestions. There's a lot of material to 
cover, and I'm still choosing what clips to demo different aspects of 
the TVs, but I'll consider those you've sent in mind. The Skyfall Macao 
casino arrival scene is certainly a good one. Smile

See you on Saturday.

Warmest regards
Vincent

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bigboss wrote:

Received a response from Vincent to Son_of_SJ's suggestions:

 

Many thanks for sending those suggestions. There's a lot of material to 
cover, and I'm still choosing what clips to demo different aspects of 
the TVs, but I'll consider those you've sent in mind. The Skyfall Macao 
casino arrival scene
is certainly a good one. Smile

See you on Saturday.

Warmest regards
Vincent

Ah. That's not quite the scene I meant. I wanted the transition from being in the art gallery to the arrival in SHANGHAI, which occurs 41 minutes and 27 seconds from the start of the disc. The Macau casino arrival scene occurs ten minutes later, with 51 minutes 41 seconds elapsed, and I don't think that it's nearly as eye-catching as the start of the Shanghai scene. For the avoidance of doubt, the poor-quality 1.3 MPixel mobile phone picture shows the start of the SHANGHAI scene, helpfully self-captioned in the middle even without the Denon Blu-ray player's optional display information. But, as I keep saying, it's important to get the transition from being in the art gallery with Q to the Shanghai arrival, don't go straight to the Shanghai scene.

Shangai arrival scene from Skyfall

And don't forget about the first three minutes of Blade Runner .....

 

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Yes, I copy pasted your request, including Blade Runner one. I'll directly ask him tomorrow.

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Looking forward to the feedback.   :clap:   Can we have some pictures too?  

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The ZT blew them all out of the water in every respect. Had to leave early due to other commitments.

will post more info when I get back home later.

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