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the biggest HiFi forum in the UK

I don't think it is, actually.

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altruistic.lemon wrote:
the biggest HiFi forum in the UK

I don't think it is, actually.

You're kidding?

That's it then, I'm off to play with the big boys.  :roll:

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Funny how one word gives the game away, isn't it, guys?

Give it a rest, go back to your speakerette forum and stop trying to hijack the biggest HiFi forum in the UK. I presume you're being well rewarded for this devious nonsense.

Was this directed at me?  :O

No Suzie... Hope it's not too late, I believe it was directed at overdose!

No more to be added by me... mainly all good advice.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Mac

Hi Mac not too late I was just a bit taken back. I thought maybe I'd done something I shouldn't have in one of my posts. Thanks for taking the time to comment.  Smile

 

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Susie Hello and welcome to the forum. You mention bluray and DVD but don't say whether you want to consider surround sound (many classical titles are appearing on bluray in HD surround format, so this may be of interest to you). JD

I'm aware of this and would consider going SS if it wasn't for the fact a lot of my listening is done on headphones.  I still want decent speakers but I just feel more intune with the music using headphones I hope that doesn't sound strange.  :oops:

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John Duncan wrote:

altruistic.lemon wrote:
the biggest HiFi forum in the UK

I don't think it is, actually.

You're kidding?

That's it then, I'm off to play with the big boys.  :roll:

AVForums certainly used to be bigger last time I saw, but it covers many more topics than this one does.  It's particularly big on gaming, for example, IIRC.

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AVForums certainly used to be bigger last time I saw, but it covers many more topics than this one does.  It's particularly big on gaming, for example, IIRC.

Oh well, I can't be doing wiith that; so it looks like I've left before I've even joined!  :doh:

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Sorry Susie, we're thread drifting. Have you got a TV and would it be practical to incorporate it into your system (ie have speakers either side of it)? I'm thinking either fairly modest BD player and receiver, or something based round your mac mini, with headphones for ultimate sound quality.

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Sorry Susie, we're thread drifting. Have you got a TV and would it be practical to incorporate it into your system (ie have speakers either side of it)? I'm thinking either fairly modest BD player and receiver, or something based round your mac mini, with headphones for ultimate sound quality.

It's cool no need to apologize as long as it doesn't get nasty no harm done?  

We don't currently have a televsion set as we don't watch televsion.  Anything we do watch is done either via our computer monitors of which we have several or a projecter in our little "cinema". 

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For a system which is easy to listen to but which offers high levels of insight and detail, Arcam is very hard to beat.  In your position I would be starting by listening to an Arcam A19 amplifier with Quad 11L Classic and Focal Chorus 705v speakers.  If you want a universal disc player one of the Denon or Marantz models would serve you admirably.   From here you may then want to see what moving up to an Arcam CD37/A38 combination would bring you (warning, its a stunning combination, particularly with classical music) and try this with a range of speakers - KEF R100s would be well worth a try as a starter.

I'd also suggest trying to hear the Creek Destiny 2 amp, which remains one of the best below £2k in my opinion, and the new Rega Elicit-R which I've heard sounding particularly fine with PMC speakers. 

These are just a handful of ideas based on my own experiences.

Rega RP3/Elys 2 - Graham Slee Gram Amp 1 - Rega Apollo R - Exposure 1010 amp - Dynaudio DM2/6 - Chord Co. Chameleon VEE3/Rumour 2 - Musical Fidelity V90-HPA - Sennheiser HD595

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Matching your headphones performance is going to be really tough. 

PI wouldn't rush the speakers purchase. BigH s recommendation to try a dealer like Bartletts is a good one. You'll be able to directly compare good actives with good amp/speaker combos. If it can't happen for a couple of months would that be a problem ?

 

also do you envisage connecting the speakers to your mac / home cinema ?

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Hey Susie , hows yer head ? , lol.  :). 

Kick back and chill sounds good to me. Best I dont go down the valve route ( which is what I use ) otherwise you will end up with a migraine . 

Creek / Epos , from Cnos list earlier in the thread will well be worth an audition. Also Primare / Vienna Acoustics work really well together , either or could well float yer boat.

But dem dem dem is the only way to do this.

 

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But the OP has explained she doesn't have the time to demo constantly. 

Id stick with the headphones for now, maybe add a headphone amp. Then in future weeks/months find a couple of hours to hit one retailer hard. 

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Two thoughts.

Universal players often need a screen to navigate to different formats on the disc and for 2 channel listening offer little benefit sound quality wise. Personally I would look for a simpler source option, probably computer based if I possible, given your work, you probably have plenty of computing power and the knowledge required to integrate music playing into your system.

You may already have a collection of music on different media and may, for example, need a blu-ray player for your work, or be working towards a fully fledged multi-channel A/V setup, in which case the point is moot.

 

Secondly you have a smallish square room, a lot of very good speakers are simply not going to work that well unless positioned optimally, probably difficult in what is also a work environment. 

At the risk of once again upsetting the forum, active speakers offer a genuine advantage in terms of control in the bass region and could be a very good solution should they have to be placed in a position that is less than optimum. Active loudspeakers are relatively rare in the hi-fi world, though models are available from the likes of Kef, Dynavector, AVI and others.

Active speakers are much more common in the area of multimedia and music prodution, a line that is particularly suited both to this and domestic use would be the Adam Artist range, though they are quite hard to find.

 

BTW. Your Sennheiser 'phones are seriously capable, you should make sure your system either has a good amplifier for them or provision to add one, very worthwhile if they are going to be used a lot.

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davedotco wrote:

Two thoughts.

Universal players often need a screen to navigate to different formats on the disc and for 2 channel listening offer little benefit sound quality wise. Personally I would look for a simpler source option, probably computer based if I possible, given your work, you probably have plenty of computing power and the knowledge required to integrate music playing into your system.

You may already have a collection of music on different media and may, for example, need a blu-ray player for your work, or be working towards a fully fledged multi-channel A/V setup, in which case the point is moot.

 

Secondly you have a smallish square room, a lot of very good speakers are simply not going to work that well unless positioned optimally, probably difficult in what is also a work environment. 

At the risk of once again upsetting the forum, active speakers offer a genuine advantage in terms of control in the bass region and could be a very good solution should they have to be placed in a position that is less than optimum. Active loudspeakers are relatively rare in the hi-fi world, though models are available from the likes of Kef, Dynavector, AVI and others.

Active speakers are much more common in the area of multimedia and music prodution, a line that is particularly suited both to this and domestic use would be the Adam Artist range, though they are quite hard to find.

 

BTW. Your Sennheiser 'phones are seriously capable, you should make sure your system either has a good amplifier for them or provision to add one, very worthwhile if they are going to be used a lot.

 

I thought the small room would be preferable as it meant less work for the speakers however there are much larger rooms I could use.  99% of my music is on CDs Hybrid-SACDs we do have a large DVD and Blu-ray collection though, everything is ripped and stored on a RAID. Smile

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I thought the small room would be preferable as it meant less work for the speakers however there are much larger rooms I could use.  99% of my music is on CDs Hybrid-SACDs we do have a large DVD and Blu-ray collection though, everything is ripped and stored on a RAID. Smile

Almost all speakers (there are exceptions) work best with a couple of feet clearance from the wall behind them. To create a wide sound stage and separate out the instruments, you'll probably want six feet between the two speakers. Then you'll want at least as much distance between you and the speakers, say nine feet, and also about six feet between you and the wall behind you (otherwise sound bouncing off the wall behind will confuse the sonic image). In other words, your ideal listening room would be around eighteen feet deep. That's not to say you can't get good results in a smaller room.

Also a larger room will allow you to use larger speakers with bigger low frequency drivers, which means deeper bass extension. Big speakers in a small room usually don't work well (though I've come across exceptions to this rule too).

In fact, there are exceptions to all of this. You can get very clean, precise and tuneful bass from quite small drivers, for instance. But if you like big orchestral music, say, small drivers won't deliver the atmosphere of the concert hall in the way large drivers will, and for that you need a large room.

On the subject of London hi-fi dealers, I think Bartletts and Grahams (both Highbury) have already been suggested. Depending on where you are, the following might be useful: KJWestone (Marylebone), Oranges and Lemons (Wandsworth), Audio Venue (Ealing).

:cheers:

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I thought the small room would be preferable as it meant less work for the speakers however there are much larger rooms I could use.  99% of my music is on CDs Hybrid-SACDs we do have a large DVD and Blu-ray collection though, everything is ripped and stored on a RAID. Smile

There is also the problem that "square" is acoustically the worst shape for a room to be.

 

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