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Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

I would have thought that would imply that their influence has been rather shortlived then wouldn't it?

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Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

Ummm......NO!

They have had hardly any influence at all, unless you mean the Syd Barrett era; now that did influence a lot of bands.

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Came in to post Autobahn by Kraftwerk, even though I don't enjoy it that much.

 

Personally, for electronic it's Selected Ambient Works 85–92 by Aphex Twin.

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I may go for Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, not the best but it influenced the Beatles before Sgt. Pepper and no doubt many others. Others would be Bob Dylan: Bringing It All Back Home. exploding boundaries and Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced?, who knows where rock music would be without Jimi's influence?

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JoelSim wrote:

Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

Ummm......NO!

They have had hardly any influence at all, unless you mean the Syd Barrett era; now that did influence a lot of bands.

 

You're quite right. Floyd have had no influence on any music whatsoever.

 

 

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

JoelSim wrote:

Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

Ummm......NO!

They have had hardly any influence at all, unless you mean the Syd Barrett era; now that did influence a lot of bands.

You're quite right. Floyd have had no influence on any music whatsoever.

I didn't say none, but I personally think the Syd Barrett era was far more influential; Blur for starters, though the list is a long one.

Name me some big and highly regarded bands that were influenced by post-Barrett Floyd? (I'm not mocking, I genuinely would like to know if I'm wide of the mark)

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JoelSim wrote:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

JoelSim wrote:

Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

Ummm......NO!

They have had hardly any influence at all, unless you mean the Syd Barrett era; now that did influence a lot of bands.

You're quite right. Floyd have had no influence on any music whatsoever.

I didn't say none, but I personally think the Syd Barrett era was far more influential; Blur for starters, though the list is a long one.

Name me some big and highly regarded bands that were influenced by post-Barrett Floyd? (I'm not mocking, I genuinely would like to know if I'm wide of the mark)

 

Well apparently all these bands cite PF as an influence: U2, Queen, Tool, Radiohead, Kraftwerk, Queensrÿche, Nine Inch Nails, the Orb, Porcupine Tree and the Smashing Pumpkins.

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So because a small section of one Kraftwerk track sounds vaguely like a small section of a Pink Floyd track, they were influenced by them? 

Have you got any quotations from any of these bands saying they were inspired by post-Barrett Pink Floyd?

A bit of proof would be good.  Wink

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What has Syd Barrett got to do with it. No-one mentioned him except for you and whether he was responsible or not, the band that is PF created some ground-breaking stuff.

 

It appears to me that whole genres of music have been inspired by the likes of Pink Floyd, from rock to chillout.

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Surely it has to be the Floyd albums. We will never see the likes of them again in the mainstream simply due to the way music is consumed these days.

I would have thought that would imply that their influence has been rather shortlived then wouldn't it?

 

Not really, you could argue that the whole dance music mixing tunes into one another was partly inspired by the journies of those albums.

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Taking the thread title literally, then the most influential recordings ever were probably those made on the original Edison Phonograph and Berliner Gramophone systems.

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On the contrary, Waters-era Floyd may have been more influential than you ever could imagine. Over a decade ago I listened to Prodigy's Music For A Jilted Generation, and the first half reminded me wholly of Echoes - way past the time Barrett left.

Also, if you listen to the synthesisers on Welcome To The Machine (Wish You Were Here) - well I'm sure the synth riff at the end has been copied countless times.

It's been very fashionable to write off Waters as a grumpy old fart - thanks to half-witted rags like Uncut et al, but their 4 major records in the 70s are impossible to ignore.

Also, I agree with Chebby that without Stevie Wonder, RnB acts like Beyonce would be nowhere today. On that note I may be buying my first Beyonce album - her very latest CD is apparently excellent.

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What has Syd Barrett got to do with it.

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JoelSim wrote:

It appears to me that whole genres of music have been inspired by the likes of Pink Floyd, from rock to chillout.

Are you saying rock music didn't exist before Pink Floyd?

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RE: Most influential recording, and why.

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

So because a small section of one Kraftwerk track sounds vaguely like a small section of a Pink Floyd track, they were influenced by them? 

Have you got any quotations from any of these bands saying they were inspired by post-Barrett Pink Floyd?

A bit of proof would be good.  Wink

 

Not exactly proof but best I can find

 

"Queen II was recorded at Trident Studios in August 1973, chiefly produced by Roy Baker, chiefly engineered by Mike Stone (Father to Son andSeven Seas of Rhye being notable exceptions) and released on 8th March 1974. Freddie Mercury was the album's chief composer, lyricist and arranger. It was a moderate commercial success and their first release ever to be No 1 somewhere (Belgium, to be precise). The album was massively popular amongst fans, band members, crew and other musicians.


While not by any means a concept record, it's arranged by 'blocks' of tracks by the same songwriter, a concept which is similar to (and possibly inspired by) Pink Floyd's Ummagumma. In fact there's a lot of Pink Floyd on this record: compare Procession with Speak to Me, basically the same intro. It's worth mentioning that, by the time Queen II was being recorded, Dark Side of the Moon was a huge commercial success in Britain. Pink Floyd were one of the few bands all Queen members seemed to be quite fond of; Deacon, May and Taylor mentioned them in interviews over the years, and Mercury's driver/PA confirmed they were one of the groups he used to listen while being chauffered."

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