AVI ADM9s: breakthrough or too much hype?
That would be an interesting demo, I would expect to hear a big difference in bass depth and control.
There was very little difference in depth, the ADMs had more control - as you'd expect from decent actives.
Hi, can you explain what you mean by control please?
It means the bass is under control, it doesn't get flappy or farty.
Before AVI ADM 9Ts I spent more time listening to/adjusting/changing the system, it had almost nothing to do with the music which is what it should be about.
Not sure what this is all about (this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but seems to be a theme) - maybe it applies to some of the people on here, but I never, ever, ever sit around analysing music/reproduction/sound quality etc, I just listen to music.
I love listening to music on any of my set ups - sure, the more expensive stereos I own sound better, but it's marginal, especially after a few ciders, which is when I tend to only listen to music (as oppose to just having music on constantly in the background). As I have pointed out on previous threads, my Onkyo TX-8050 or Pioneer A400 with Mission 751 doesn't cope that well with extreme metal, but after a bit of experimentation I've found that's more to do with recordings than anything else. The bass I get from that set up with electronica is deep, tight and wonderful.
I'm sure this is not what they mean, but it's definitely not the preserve of AVI owners to have forgotten about the equipment and just listen to the music.
I'm not going to upgrade cables or interconnects or power supplies, and everything sounds fabulous no matter what room in the house I'm in.
Having said that, I'm a bit of a heathen and maybe I value volume and gut punching bass more than I should. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere I can indulge in both of those without worrying about neighbours.
Nobody would frequent these (or any other) hi-fi forums unless they had some kind of interest in the equipment, whether they own conventional hi-fi seperates or something different like the AVI actives. I also doubt there are many people here who weren't drawn to hi-fi because of their love of listening to music and wanting the best possible sound at home. We all go through phases where the hi-fi gets in the way of the music, whether we are considering a new amplifier or whether we are salivating at AVI's latest improvements to the ADM9.1s, but I'm sure (from the comments I read) that those with a system they are generally happy with spend plenty of time enjoying the music whichever approach they've taken.
Nobody would frequent these (or any other) hi-fi forums unless they had some kind of interest in the equipment, whether they own conventional hi-fi seperates or something different like the AVI actives. I also doubt there are many people here who weren't drawn to hi-fi because of their love of listening to music and wanting the best possible sound at home. We all go through phases where the hi-fi gets in the way of the music, whether we are considering a new amplifier or whether we are salivating at AVI's latest improvements to the ADM9.1s, but I'm sure (from the comments I read) that those with a system they are generally happy with spend plenty of time enjoying the music whichever approach they've taken.
While I agree broadly, what seems to be the case is that once you come over to the dark side of giving up choice of amp, choosing active crossover with an amp designed or chosen specifically for the drivers, you (or rather one) tends not to go back.
I was a cable faffer, a tweaker, standing my speakers on spikes and coins and putting mats underneath stuff...and then I realised that it was all codswallop.
And while I definitely enjoyed my music, I also spent a good deal of that time evaluating. A v B, is this wire better? 30 seconds of music , swap, blahblahblah.
I don't bother now. Buying the ADMs stopped me faffing and increased my proper listening time.
I have the 9.1Ts and they are extremely good speakers, pre, amp, DAC, remote, all in one. They need a sub if you are a bass-head (like most standmounts) and cannot be bettered by passive at the same price-point.
They can be equalled/bettered at a similar price IMO if you're willing to delve into pro-audio. But then you're generally giving up the wife-friendly, all in one box solution and usually having to faff around with choosing a good pre-amp/DAC. But it's great to see some more reasonably priced home focussed actives appearing from Dynaudio and our own(Sweden) AudioPro.
I'd buy passive speakers again for 5.1 simply because of the lack of cheaper AV processors, but not for Hi-Fi. There is no doubt in my mind that for value for money, actives cannot be touched (assuming a level playing field ie, new v new OR ebay v ebay).
And for the moment there are very few comparable products to Avi's offerings at anything like a reasonable price.
Dunno, mate. The two you mention, Dynaudio and Audiopro, seem to have left AVI behind.
Nobody would frequent these (or any other) hi-fi forums unless they had some kind of interest in the equipment
I only come to do this.
Now's the time to buy AVI - their forum is full of kit of people trying to get rid with posters treating them as if they're bereaved
Nobody would frequent these (or any other) hi-fi forums unless they had some kind of interest in the equipment
I only come to do this.
No idea, but we are amused.
Now's the time to buy AVI - their forum is full of kit of people trying to get rid with posters treating them as if they're bereaved
This, too, is quite funny.
Dunno, mate. The two you mention, Dynaudio and Audiopro, seem to have left AVI behind.
Well in terms of wireless, indeed. I would definitely be interested in wireless with my next purchase, but in the end SQ is number one.
Hoopsontoast has spoken a lot of sense in this thread. The best advice that I can give SimonDB is that he should follow Hoops' advice.
Hoopsontoast has spoken a lot of sense in this thread. The best advice that I can give SimonDB is that he should follow Hoops' advice.
I would if he didn't have such a silly name.
Nobody would frequent these (or any other) hi-fi forums unless they had some kind of interest in the equipment
I only come to do this.
No idea, but we are amused.
It's the very final shot from the remake of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers (that's Donald Sutherland obviously). Scared the living bejesus out of me when I first saw it.
...you’ll be back for last orders at the Dog Star.
It's a date!!!