bigboss wrote:Is Pioneer still supporting firmware updates for LX91? What's the guarantee that future blu ray discs will be playable? Even £500 is a lot for it, IMO.
Yes, they are:
Pioneer Kuro KRP-500A, Sky+HD 2TB, Monitor Audio Apex (4x A10, 1xA40), B&W PV1D, Oppo 95
My Pioneer 71 and Oppo 103 haven't had any problems with discs. My Oppo has had no firmware updates and my Pioneer only a couple. I don't think it is a major concern anyway. I bought the Pioneer LX70a about a year ago and that worked great too!
Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.
Gadgets: iPad 2 and iPhone 4s. Headphones: B&O H6. Dab radio: Roberts Dreamtime.
The Pioneer 55 on the other hand has lots of problems!
Hi I have owned the LX71 LX 54 and LX55 and now the Marantz - there are differences in all the players.
Gel run his Plasma with IFC on Max - so he is seeing the Tv's additonal processing more than the players performance. If you plan to run your VT65 with IFC on max or on keep the LX71 as the additonal TV processing is factoring in and negating differences
If however you plan to get the set calibrated and not use IFC then you may be interested in newer players as they are definately better - doesnt mean you have to spend a fortune, but means dont write the idea off
I tried the LX55 against the Marantz UD7007 when I first got it on my calibrated Kuro LX5090 - the motion and the way the Pioneer handles the motion / image was far worse than the Marantz. The Marantz doesnt put a foot wrong the LX55 had slightly blured motion and stuttered motion at times - it used to drive me nuts. I have seen it on a demo model in store as well so it wasnt my player. I dont remember getting that with the LX71 but I remember the movement just not being as crisp or clear - I get to see ther LX08 occaisionally - its very natural picture, very realistic - but when its fast motion the image clarity just isnt there - a good test is transformers 3 the last 30 mins ish where Optimus Prime steams the Deceptacons and there is a lot of fighting - that whole section of the film is amazingly crisp on the Marantz and it was blurred on every other player I have had before it - thats with IFC off
Thats my opinion on it
Meridian 861 V4 LPSU, HD621, Bryston 9BSST
Monitor Audio PL100, GXC 150, GXFX, SVS SB13 ULTRA
Custom Audio PC LPSU + Batts, JPLAY, JCAT and PPA Studio
Panny 65VT65, Marantz UD7007, Graham Slee Analogue and Digital Cables, Isotek
bigboss wrote:Is Pioneer still supporting firmware updates for LX91?
Quote:What's the guarantee that future blu ray discs will be playable?
DavidF @FrankHarveyHiFi, Coventry.
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They are definitely supporting updates for 71 as an update came out last month. The 91 I'm not sure though.
Living room: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated), Sky HD 1TB, Denon 3313UD, Denon 2113 AVR, Focal Chorus 716 5.1 speakers, iPad mini, iPhone 5s, Harmony Touch
Bedroom: Panasonic TH-46PZ85B plasma, Sky HD, Cambridge Audio DVD 57.
Series1boy wrote:They are definitely supporting updates for 71 as an update came out last month. The 91 I'm not sure though.
The lx91 got the same update, see link further up the page.
So if I did decide to upgrade, is the Marantz 7007 the way forward in terms of just pure picture quality? Is the daddy player?
I'm usually hesistant to recommend a blu ray player that costs more than the AV receiver. If you're not worried about twin HDMI outs, look at the younger sibling, the Marantz UD5007.
Series1boy wrote:So if I did decide to upgrade, is the Marantz 7007 the way forward in terms of just pure picture quality? Is the daddy player?
Ellisdj would say so, Gel preferred the Oppo 103. It's probably better to demo yourself if possible.
I would suggest - first thing to do - get the TV calibrated!!! - that's essential and will bring more picture benefits than buying a new player or doing anything else Only then would I look to buy a new player - as I said you dont have to spend the fortune on the 7007. Had it not met my expectation it would have gone straight back - its honestly been the opposite. The Oppo's are highly regarded - so you should consider as well However my system is a bit different to most in terms of setup - sound decoding is done by the player in my setup and the picture is separated from the sound early in the chain to prevent either being affected by the other
Quick addition - if you put 2 stills up from 2 different blu ray players then it may be hard to really see the differences the better players have over the lesser good. I dont know I have not tried it.
Its when the film is playing that the differences to me become very clear - how well the player has a grip on things - how clear things stay and dont become blurred. You only realise they are blurred when you see how clear they actually can be.
Thanks all. Think I'm going to wait until the VT beds in and will get it calibrated first, then I will look at new players. Although, I'm enjoying the lx71 because my old panasonic PZ46 plasma didn't do the 71 justice. So, I suppose it's like watching a new player.
Series 1 boy.
My advice to you - whoever does it ask them to calibrate 1 setting to 2.2 and the other to 2.4 gamma.
I feel 2.4 gamma is where this TV's picture is best and the calibrator might not do it without a word in the ear.
all the best
Thanks pal will do.
Jumping in a bit - I have a lx08 which i believe to be the same as the lx71 internally, and was thinking same thing about updating it. After reading this I am beginning to think against (unless I can find a marantz 7007 kicking around cheaply which seems unlikely).
Anyone able to opine on whether the 08 is really the 71 in a different box? Or suggest whether lx55, for example, is just as good plus having 3d (which seems not, given earlier posts)?