Could you please tell me if Denon RCD-M39DAB deliver enough power to drive these speakers (Concept 20). Do you think this is a combination worth buying? Thanks!
The question has been asked before, but no answer was forthcoming.
Concept 20s (with stands) vs 2050i.
With these options being relatively close in price, I was wondering what opinion was on their relative performance.
Currently I run the 2010i in a 2.1 setup. Looking to upgrade these speakers. I haven't demoed anything yet but I guess my thoughts are the concept 20 would work well with my current sub for movies/music but with the 2050i I may have enough low down to remove the sub altogether. This said, I know prevailing opinion is that stand mount speakers offer better quality for audio listening, just wondering whether the technology in the 2050i has brought their performance closer.
If you want loads of bass , a more authoratative sound and the ability to play really loud then the 2050i are the better buy. The Concept 20s clearer, more detailed and certainly more articulate. The choice depends on your priorities.
Question: i want to buy these, but will they be powerful enough for a rather large living room ... 9m x 4m ? Or are they more for small living room / bedroom type of rooms?
i am looking for rather small elegant WHITE speakers (constraints given by the wife!)... So any other idea would help!
Also consider concept 40.
I hope q acoustic increase the sensitivity of next speaker
I think the floorstanding 2050is would be better at filling a room that size.
Going to buy these - can anyone recommend a great amp to pair with please?
Try either the Rotel RA-10 (if you can do without a remote) or Rega's Brio-R. If your budget is higher we've had great results with Arcam's A 19, the Cyrus 6a and even Naim's Nait 5si.
I use a Marantz CD17 KI-S, 18 watt Dared MP-15 SE amp (upgraded vintage valves) into old Kef Q35s in a 4x5m room. Looking to upgrade speakers and considering used Triangle Zephyr/Titus as well as vintage Kef References/Tannoy DCs - either standmount or fl/st.
My question is: how favourably would the Concept 20's compete in this company (on filled Atacama SE24 stands)? Or would I be better sticking to 90db+ options to hear the source/amp at thier best? (Can't audition the 20's.)
I think I'd be tempted by one of the Triangles or an older Tannoy DC, particularly if the Tannoy is one of the larger ones. I think either option will not only have greater senstivity - making more of those 18 watts - but also have a scale and authority the relatively small Concept 20s don't have. You have to take a hit on tonal eveness and general refinement, though.
Much appreciated, Ketan. Think I'll be concentrating on the DC option - and most of that old wood still looks gorgeous too!
I would also look at the 2070i's with the 18watt SET, I have 8 watt SET Tube into the 2070i floorstanders that give 125 watt Roksan Kandy K2 a run for vocals in small and large rooms. The 92dBi sensitivity is the bonus with small Tube SET amps.
I've been looking to buy the NAD D3020 and a set of B&W 685 or Q Acoustics Concept 20 for a while now. However, as I cannot demo the Q Acoustics I haven't been able to make up my mind. Which setup do you think would do best? It'll be playing in a small room (3.5 x 4 metres = 14 m2).
Both are good speakers. You won't go wrong, but our preference would be for the Concept 20s.
Hello,want to upgrade my system,so I bought recently Cambridge audio AR30 +NP30. Would these work well with the QA Concept 20. Thanks in advance for your advice.
Hi all, anyone for advice? Still waiting.
Yes, they'll work fine,
Thanks a lot, I'll buy them today. My configuration will be like that CA AR30+NP30+Dac Bushmaster
MKII (the new Beresford)+cablesCA ultra100. Need more saving for the stand. Hope these will sound great give me excellent listening experience.
Thank you for the input. I'll be looking forward to getting them
I hope q accoustic also consider to release bigger speaker. (at least one inch bigger)
If it can create much better sound I believe many people will buy it.
Also I hope q acoustic produce speaker with minimum 90db
Will there be a floor standing concept speaker ?
I hope Q use at least 6 inch for floor standing version.
Meanwhile please keep improving the cheap version
Rumour has it there may be one in the pipeline, but I couldn't possibly comment
Come now, you know you want to really........
There is a question i would like to ask. which is better the concept 20 or the 2050i?
I wish they offering more color.
and I hope price in all country is not higher than MSRP.
and i want to see the newer model from 2020. I hope it also good. I wish the sensitivity is higher
i bought a 2050i floorstands and i want a pair for rear(i got a 2000ic for center),so which are the best?the concept 20,the 2020i or 2010i?
Firstly, thank you very much for purchasing your Q Acoustics 2050i and 2000Ci loudspeakers; we're very confident you'll be delighted with their performance.
With regard to the rear channels: well of course we'd love to take more money from you, but to be honest, the 2010i would be our choice every time. The extra bass extension, which the 2020i delivers over the 2010i, will make almost no difference when connected to rear channels.
Steve Reichert - PR Manager, Armour Home (Q Acoustics)
Am looking to purchace a pair of Concept 20's this week to replace my Monitor Audio RS5's, these speakers have not performed well on the end of my NAIM system. However i have heard some good reports over the Concepts mating with this brand, and the UNITI range in particular. My system comprises of: CD5X, NAP110 Pre-amp and NAC122 power and plus a Flat Cap to connected to both CD and Pre-amp. Will i be fitting the equivalent of 12 inch weels to a Ferrari 458, or will they perform well? I am also looking to try and get a straight swap for my entire system for a UNITI light, but as yet no dealer has shown any interest.
I've just bought and taken delivery of the concept 20 speakers, including stands. It was a tough decision to replace my mission 753's from 20 odd years ago. Plugged them in last night and was amazed at the sound coming out of these tiny speakers. Build quality as good as I could imagine, and such a sweet and engaging sound. I was concerned the bass may not match up to the big 753's, but there is plenty of bass. I find the sound is not as detailed as the mission (not a surprise) but the mid to high range makes up for any loss of detail by being sweeter and as my wife put it "rounder". And that was after the first 5 minutes. Really looking forward to running them in. Am running them off cyrus 8 dac, so plenty of power. Overall very pleased, a really good balance of cost v ability in my opinion.
How do they sound now you have run them in a bit, i am thinking of buying a pair of these to replace my 752 freedoms.
The use of Gelcore leaves me wondering. Although it is a breakthrough in cabinet design, I wonder what sort of lifespan does it have? If it is constantly exposed to vibration and heat will it eventually lose its consistency?
Would it become stiffer or maybe more flexible over time? If this does happen surely it would ruin the speakers and you'd be left with the 2020i - albeit an expensive equivalent.
So I would be keen to hear what Q Acoustics take is on this.
Thanks for posting this very good question regarding the Q Acoustics Concept 20 loudspeakers.
We're pleased to report that we are completely confident the 'Gelcore' will function perfectly throughout the life of the loudspeaker. By which we mean that the 'Gelcore construction' should outlast the loudspeaker drive units themselves. Provided the speakers are not misused, which means not overdriving them, leaving them in direct sunlight (or other extreme heat source), or using them in damp conditions and/or sub-zero temperatures, we'd expect them to have a very extended life.
Sorry to bother you, but I'm a budding hi-fi fan and was hoping to ask a question about your 2050is.
Am I right in saying that, if I have the money, it's worth going for the 2050is over the Concept 20s? It's not just more power they provide, but also better quality, presence and sound-staging, am I right?Thanks!Zac Barnett
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I am hoping to audition the Concept 20s alongside a couple of other brands in a couple of weeks time. Really keen to hear the results.
i am considering buing the q acoustics concept 20 along with the Denon RCD-N8 micro system.
I would like to ask you what you think about this combination.
Also, I listen only to metal. Would you say that this setup would sound good for this music?
Your opinion will be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
I'm pondering options for a new system and wondering how well these might match with either the Arcam fmj A19 or Cyrus 6a
I can't think of a reason why these speakers won't well with either of the amplifiers you mention. The choice just depends on the sonic flavour you prefer.
Just wondering what would be the better buy, the Q Acoustics Concept 20 (with matching stands) or the Tannoy Revolution DC6 (any pointers regarding suitable stands welcome)?
I'll be partnering with Pioneer N-50 Network Audio Player and admittedly aging Marantz CD6000OSE and PM7000 amp until I can afford to upgrade these.
Many thanks for any advice.
Both the Q Acoustics and Tannoys are excellent speakers. They sound very different though. The Concept 20 is very refined and spacious sounding while the Tannoys are more upfront and energetic. It depends what you are looking for. The DC6s sound really good on Custom Designs' FS104 Signature stand (about £200)
Thanks for the advice. I cheked out both options and after auditioning, decided on the Q Acoustic Concept 20 in black, (as the white stands resemble radiators). The sales staff at Sevenoaks SV couldn't praise them highly enough. I am now eagerly awaiting their delivery on Wednesday.
Just wanted to provide a little update after finally getting my hands on a pair of these amazing speakers... all I can say is WOW! I know it's not a very detailed or technical appraisal but still a fitting expression of well-deserved praise. They are a thing of sheer beauty, the stands (in black) remind me of an etched 2001 type monolith and I admit I had major reservations about the stands, no more! As for the sound, well I've just got them connected to the Pioneer N-50 network player via a decade old Marantz PM7000 amp and I already know it's the best £550 I've ever spent. Being fed a high quality flac of Alice in Chains, Dirt from JRiver media player it's like hearing each track I thought I knew and loved so much for the first time again! I can't imagine how good they'd sound partnered with better kit...
Perhaps I'm being too sensitive, but are we being criticised just because we've made an excellent stand to allow the Concept 20 speakers to perform at their very best?
We, of course, would wish everyone who invests in a pair of the new Concept 20 speakers to purchase a pair of the matching stands as well. However, the speakers will also work beautifully on less good stands and even when placed on suitable shelves, brackets or furniture - just not quite as good as on Concept 20 stands.
I feel I have to point that this also applies to every other 'Standmount/bookshelf' loudspeaker on the planet. Every one of them will perfom better on a good stand than they do on a poor stand or on furniture.
Now here's the ironic bit - the Concept 20 will almost certainly perform better than all its rival speakers, when placed on something like a sideboard of other piece of furniture, precisely because its Gelcore construction cabinet will transmit less energy (vibration) into whatever it's standing on.
We're all very excited about the Concept 20, so I hope you'll take a little time and audition a pair the next time you're passing your local Q Acoustics dealer; I'm very confident you'll be impressed.
Very best regards,
Hi Steve ,
First of all let me say that I purchased both the Concept 20s complete with stands and I am very pleased with the results. The clarity and detail is what I like most and the fact that they remain coherent and cohesive even at high ( but not stupid) volume. A lot of speakers get a little muddy when driven fairly hard. I think the problem you have with the stands is that all the reviews say that in order to get the best from the Concept 20 you must place them on the bespoke stand. I myself already owned a pair of Atacama stands that paired wonderfully well with my Mordaunt Short Avant 902i speakers and I was reluctant to buy the Concept stands but I didn't want to compromise the potential of the Concept 20s by not sitting them on the correct stand. So it was the whole deal or perhaps buying a more expensive speaker instead. Fortunately the dealer came up with a great price and so the Concept 20 plus stands it was. I partially justified buying the stands on the grounds that the Atacama stands are a little shorter than the bespoke stand and the Concepts benefit from that little extra height. So what do the Concepts sound like on the Atacamas? I am afraid that I can't tell you. They went on their own stands, they sounded just great and that is where they stayed. Call me a coward if you want !
I don't believe WHF were criticising you about making good stands its the price that they were highlighting.
I have the Q acoustics 2050i speakers and really like them. Compared to getting the 2020i and getting the matching stands I was better off getting the floor standers so I did.
My understanding is that most people get bookshelf speakers over floor standers since bookshelf don't suffer cabinet resonance as much as floorstanding. With that in mind, will Q Acoustics be designing a floor stander with this gel in it before all your rivals buy the concept 20 and steal the gel idea to reduce floor stander resonance?
If you can top the sonic performance of the 2050i I would buy those speakers!
I would like to know if these sound better than the Monitor Audio BX2 ?
In my opinion they do sound better than the BX2s. Then again, the Concept 20s cost more too.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but when I heard them at the Bristol Show last month they looked very smart and contemporary, and sounded super too. However, they are really £550 including stands, and best seen as comparable to floorstanders at the same price in my view.
Nice looking speakers! a welcome change from the usual wood veneers. Looking forward to hearing them with a quality sub.
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