I have no doubt that these speakers have their plus-points. But my question is unanswered, are you from Eclipse or WHF?
Compromised bass, compromised treble, limited power handling etc. etc. does not add up to 5 stars, particularly at nearly £4000, in my most humble opinion.
I doubt whether someone from Eclipse would point out the innate shortcomings of the TD 510.
But the fact remains, as the review states, the TD510s are vastly superior to the competition in terms of resolution, agility, timing and stereo imaging. That's why we thought they deserved the full five stars.
Clearly a product is never going to be downgraded because a Forum member questions the thinking behind such a flawed[imo] 5 star review. But here goes any way.
When such a clearly flawed speaker, at nearly £4000, gets a 5 star review is it any wonder that there are ongoing questions by readers and forum members about the integrity of testing generally and specifically?
Take a step back and consider the review. A £4000 speaker that has issues at both ends of the scale, has limited spl and power handling ability and is fussy about set up should never get a 5 star review. It is examples such as this that lead people to question testing ethics, especially if such products take advertising space in the magazine or it's stable-mates.
This is not a personal attack and I applaud how the shortcomings are driven home in the review. But if you put yourself [and whoever else colaborated in the review] in the shoes of a reader you might see how the pros do not sufficiently outweigh the cons to justify 5 stars.
p.s. I can think of a speaker that is incredibly good at the Eclipse's pros but that does not suffer from the cons and costs less than a THIRD of the price.
p.p.s. It is to the great credit of the new attitude of openness and flexibility that this mag permits such dissent without resorting to repression/expulsion as in days gone by.
Ketan is Technical Editor of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision.
Thank you Andrew. Try as I might I can't find any list of your reviewers on here.
My question still stands, unanswered, though.
List of editorial staff here: clickety. And more info on how we test here.
Thank you Andy, that is most helpful.
I really don't understand how a near £4000 speaker[pair] can be granted a 5 star rating when in that review you state that there are problems at the frequency extremes and with overall SPL. Beautiful though they are, that just doesn't add up.
Yes, the TD 510s have issues. All speakers do. It's just that the compromises are different.
Conventional multi-driver alternatives do better at the frequency extremes, and go louder, but mess up the phase coherence of the signal more. In our experience conventional speakers also lack the timing precision, stereo imaging and outright resolution of the Eclipses. The only thing to do is listen to a product and decide if the compromises chosen by the designer suit your taste.
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