Will this AVR gonna get up after that tramping ? - stay tuned.
I understand your point about upscaling, but here's MY issue.
Right, I'd prefer 4 HDMIs in (BD, HD-DVD, V-Box and SACD/DVD-A player), but I also really need the amp to bump up my 1080i Virgin box to a progressive picture, which I prefer.
Now, THAT'S why we need some upsacling.
I have the 640R. Is it possible that this one is worse? Or did the competition move forward?
What a disapointment......
I just recently purchased the 650R in alu/silver design, and while I tend to agree that certain technical shortcommings - such as lacking internet connectivity - I'm very content with the 650R's sound.
I have my 650R hooked up to Dali's Ikon 6 Mark 2 (just released!) using van den hul Hybrid cables and a Denon 1930 soon to be replaced with a 650BD.
While the sound is very enticing I hardly find it tiring in the long run.
The combination thrives once exposed to Stan Getz, Oscar Peterson, Diana Krall, Wes Montgomery and the likes, just as it delivers instrumentals and classical works with precision and detail.
On the opposite side, I've found the setup too polite and detailed to satisfy my trash / metal / hard rock needs besides instrumental / ambient doom genres. But then again, I didn't choose Ikon 6mk2's for metal in the first place.
When it comes to movies I've found nothing that I don't like apart from the utterly appalling OSD setup. Perhaps I'm overly demanding, but knowing the 650BD's OSD, the 650R reminds me of an old Nintendo box. It works and serves its function, but other than that its ghastly.
Soundwise is enthusiastic and driving if you prefer it loud, but keep the volume at minus 55db for late night viewing, I'm very happy with the 650R's calm and tight nature, as no detail is lost even at low volumes.
As for the remote, its solid, slim and offers nothing that'll break during the next 10 years. There's no LED or fancy gimicks, but its quick, responsive and has the features I need in a remote.
Should you have any questions, feel free to ask / write, and I'll do my best to enlighten you.
As a little background, I have until recently been listening to and still very happy with a 30 plus year old TECHNICS stereo amplifier and Bose 501 speakers, which I bought as a student second hand in Germany and in 1983 brought back with me to Australia.
I only mention this to illustrate my (very) outdated level of understanding but nonetheless benchmark or appreciation in sound i.e. I don't read reviews or understands technical specifications but think I know good quality sound or at least the sound which I like. If I remember I'll mention later what I mean.
I only purchased a Cambridge Audio 650R quite accident because my 10 year old CRT TV failed for a second time and as alternative to repairing it, I purchased a 55" SAMSUNG HD LED TV and then succumbed to the 'Home Theatre' phenomenon.
I first toyed with the idea of getting a Bose Lifestyle system and because of the lofty RRP, even buying one on eBay but thankfully quickly came to my senses and instead ordered a 5.1 surround sound and sub speaker package online from Orb Audio and on not much more than a promise I wouldn't be disappointed, I first purchased a Marantz SR6004 from the salesman who also sold me the TV.
Although smooth the difference between the Marantz and my 30 year old TECHNICS amplifier in a side by side comparison (an audio CD over an analogue connection) connected to my Bose speakers or my father's still very good Tannoy speakers, was to me night and day. The Marantz sounded over refined or over processed to what I was used to. There was no depth or what I think is now called sound stage.
Luckily and accidentally I was in another high end Hi-Fi store able to test and compare the Cambridge Audio 650R side by side with my TECHNICS, connected to my Bose speakers. I know that my 30 year equipment can�t be that bad because other customers in the store were impressed by what I was listening to and wanted to know what I listening to and then asked to borrow my test CDs to listen to the equipment which was for sale.
Anyway, the sound of an audio CD produced by Cambridge Audio 650R (over an analogue connection) was if not, as good as my old TECHNICS amplifier, so close and likely to only be one of familiarity, that I returned the Marantz while I was able to and purchased the 650R and in for a penny, in for a pound, the 650BD as a combined discounted package.
So all well and good so far but when the Orb Audio speakers arrived I quickly realised that I wouldn�t ever quickly get used to listening to an audio CD on smaller albeit very punchy satellite speakers and would need the one single analogue connection on the 650BD as alternative to using a speaker switch to connect to my old TECHNICS amplifier and larger Tannoy or Bose 501 stereo speakers.
So having passed my stereo (analogue) tests I was expecting big things from the 650R but using exclusively the HDMI connections to pass video, stereo and surround sound to the TV and/or 5.1 surround sound speakers, as I wanted the flexibility to still listen to an audio CD via the 650R and satellite speakers which in time I am sure I would come to get used to.
But as I tested this, I found to my horror that up to several seconds between tracks on an audio CD is lost and replaced with a �locking off and on� sound while I am told �the 650R is trying to figure out which decoding system to use for the signal�.
It also does this when changing channels on a set top box (PVR) which is passing a signal to the TV!
This I am told is a problem which they (Cambridge Audio I imagine) are hoping to fix with a software update. So surely this can�t be a problem restricted to my particular unit and if it is not, how could any audiophiles find this acceptable.
Has anyone else encountered this problem and if so, do they find it as irritating and unacceptable as I do? I know the receiver is relatively new but I can�t believe I haven�t seen the issue mentioned in any reviews.
Or is this a commonplace issue with most or all modern day receivers which everybody works around or puts up with?
Sure you can listen to an audio CD over an analogue connection but in my case, I wanted to use the single analogue connection on the 650BD to connect it to my TECHNICS amplifier so as an alternative and while it keeps working I could use it to listen to a stereo pair of speakers without the need for a speaker switch and surely that�s not the point. I had expected to be able to listen to any source signal using an HDMI signal.
Ultimately and as the 650R doesn�t have multiple speakers zones, might the compromise solution be to connect the 650BD to the 650R using BOTH the HDMI and analogue connections and to use a speaker switch instead to listen to a separate pair of larger stereo speakers. If so, I am not quite sure how this would work.
On top of the HDMI/decoding issue I found that the sub-out is dead and the only way to test my new Orb Audio sub was to connect it using the sixth and seventh speaker terminal. I am told that this won�t be looked until the new software, if any is ready.
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