B&W MM-1

Hey you guys are earning too much money if paying this kind of money for pc speakers ... oh to be single and so well paid  

Beolab 4s cost over twice as much as the B&Ws.

I have these and they sound utterly fantastic. But:

1. They need blu-tac, so they can be stuck firmly to the desk.

2. When fed by USB, they only handle 16bit/48khz files.

3. You can get around 2 by using analogue connection - cable supplied - but I haven't tried analogue yet.

Ok, been fiddling a bit, they don't need blu-tac, just make sure the slave speaker's wire at the base centre is pushed RIGHT in, don't be afraid to use some force.

And guess what? The bass is even more impressive! The blu-tac wasn't working (kids and visitors knocking them off anyway - always had to restick it).

Anyone compared these B&W's with the Teufel Concept B 200 USB?

I'm thinking of these to provide the sound for my bedroom's 32in LCD. Has anyone used these with a TV (sound out through the TV's headphone output)? (Can't go for a full sound system because of space n wires not being popular with the room's other occupant.)

But have you heard the Beolab 4s? Not a lot of bass, but oh so musical. Didn't really sound like PC speakers at all.

canada16, the MM-1s are active speakers designed to be connected directly to a PC and are not comparable with the system you have, which requires an amp, uses a subwoofer and very good speakers.

As I said, they can't compare with a traditional separates system, but they're not meant to.

I've just listened to the MM-1s, and have to say they are impressive for their size. More than adequate bass, good dynamics and control: indeed better than most PC speakers.  They don't sound like small speakers at all. My only concern was that they could sound a touch bright and a little artificial when pushed loud, though I doubt that most would push them to the levels we did in the shop. For PC speakers they're a bargain. To answer my own question the Beolabs are more musical and less forward, but as Chebby says at twice the price. They also don't go down as deep as the B&Ws. Nevertheless, for the longer term they'd be my pick.

However, I did compare them with a NAD 715 coupled with the shop recommended Wharfedale speakers, and unsurprisingly it was no contest. The NAD plus Wharfedales were so much better. My guess therefore is that the Denon plus speakers would be better if you wanted a good stereo for a small room. If you want desktop speakers then its the B&W with nothing coming close unless you're willing to spend double.

So what? My comment concerned the statement that "the MM-1 s are the best speakers we've heard." Price doesn't come into it.

just wondering what you thought of the ferguson hill fh007 + fh008 pairing for a pc/mac set up? as i have a pair and have never looked back, both visual and audio components stunning.

love the bowers zeppelin too, but not so impressed with the zeppelin mini, can't comment on these MM1 as havn't heard them yet.

and beolab 4s dont seem that great.

I heard the MM-1's in the apple shop and I was not impressed at all for the money.. The COMPANION 5 was far better I thought.

I have a Altec lansing subwoofer (THX) Subwoofer and Q Accoustics 1010i and that sound amazing, very deep base, and it cost me under £100.00

lukegeorge - Thanks for the heads up on the FH007.  Never heard of it before now but looks very interesting.  Love the fact it uses class A-B (not class D) amplification.

Together with the FH008 (also class A-B and infinite baffle design) and an AirPort Express, could make a nice system for enjoying internet streams whilst browsing/working.  The new Linn radio stations in particular sound amazing.

Moderators - Apologies.

Audiofoolius - I haven't myself, however, an online review reckons the Teufel is the next best thing if you can't afford the MM-1s.

Which is better audio system: Denon D-M37 or PC+MM1?

Thaks in advance.

I have just bought B&W MM-1 and listing it now.

Playing Wishbone Ash "There's the rub". The sound is amazing. It is truly Hi-Fi sound. The stereo is perfect. Bas is strong and detailed. Vocals great and worm but without exaggeration. Higher frequencies very good.

They can be really loud...

Off course you have to sit in front of the pc/laptop to get the best sound but their are still good from higher distance.

I got mine for 475Euro which is still expensive but what a hell, we live only once.

Hi, just bought a pair of these from my local Superfi store in Leeds. They are on sale at the moment instore for £ 359.95 which is what I paid. Amazing sound and quality for such small speakers. Nice and bassy too. Well worth the expensive price tag imho

In answer to the last post, I am a grumpy old geezer who has not spent money on hi-fi for 15 years. Our family home has no space for a proper hi-fi rig, and frankly it is difficult to listen to music properly with kids running around. So MM-1s are the perfect solution for me. Superb sound and imaging quality I have not heard since I was a single man with only a hi-fi and sofa in my living room.  All this on my desk in front of my computer monitor. Yes they are expensive, but this is my main hi-fi, and you can't beat the convenience factor. The other downside apart from cost, is that I have to re-rip my CDs in lossless because the speakers are so revealing!

have just got these speakers and i have been amazed by the sound they produce. as i use spotify alot at my desktop they are the perfect solution. i have not been so impressed with the sound from my loseless files on i tunes. after listening to the society of sound flac recordings using winamp i decided to rip my cd's to flac in winamp. the difference to me is amazing so i now have to put my cd collection onto flac.

does anyone use Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-E Audiophile Sound Card because i am now thinking of using this as an upgrade.

@ MANICM

QTE "2. When fed by USB, they only handle 16bit/48khz files. "

So let me get this right, if i run a direct USB from my SACD Player to speakers will not playmedia ? ....this is the reason why I want them!!!!