42 posts / 0 new
Last post
clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
some updates
simonlewis's picture
Offline
Last seen: 16 hours 12 min ago
Joined: 15/04/2008 - 10:17
Posts: 3418
RE: some updates

Nice place you have their, nice system too. Smile

CnoEvil's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 21/08/2009 - 18:01
Posts: 12058
RE: some updates

Looks lovely, but I'd worry about the Sub firing into the Rack (and being so close to the amp).

How does it sound?

Do I see the 201/2s peeping out.....are they worth the difference over the LS50s for surround duties?

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

BenLaw's picture
Offline
Last seen: 15 hours 25 min ago
Joined: 21/11/2010 - 20:21
Posts: 6311
RE: some updates

Nice room and good job  Smile Is that the oppo on the left of the kit? It's a beast!

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

simonlewis wrote:

Nice place you have their, nice system too. Smile

 

Thanks man, really appreciate it Wink

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

CnoEvil wrote:

Looks lovely, but I'd worry about the Sub firing into the Rack (and being so close to the amp).

How does it sound?

Do I see the 201/2s peeping out.....are they worth the difference over the LS50s for surround duties?

 

Thanks... :cheers:

I was a little concerned too initially but it all sounds awesome! The DB1 is astonishing... Really  shifts some air in my room! :twisted:

They certainly are 201/2's peeping out there... I love them but I do believe part of it is the new positoning and the use of the dedicated stands as you suggested... But I wouldn't be without them now for certain...

 

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

BenLaw wrote:

Nice room and good job  Smile Is that the oppo on the left of the kit? It's a beast!

 

Cheers dude...

It certainly is the Oppo... I have said it before but it just performs... whatever I throw at it, it delivers... :clap:

bigboss's picture
Offline
Last seen: 9 hours 55 min ago
Joined: 25/03/2009 - 21:40
Posts: 12686
RE: some updates

Nice! Is that a projector screen you have installed on the top?

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

bigboss wrote:
Nice! Is that a projector screen you have installed on the top?

 

Thanks man... Smile

It is... but I am "in between" PJ's at the moment so it's waiting patiently for a new light source... 

CnoEvil's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 21/08/2009 - 18:01
Posts: 12058
RE: some updates

clinton333 wrote:

I was a little concerned too initially but it all sounds awesome! The DB1 is astonishing... Really  shifts some air in my room! :twisted:

Vibration and resonance are the enemy of electronics........do you have any other options for placing your sub away from your kit, as sub bass isn't directional. If not, you may be better looking at isolation devices....but there will still be a lot of air-born vibration, with a sub of that quality (you can physically feel it).

The problem you have is that it will sound so much better than it did before, that it will be hard to know in what ways the sound is being subtly degraded. The sub may well be causing considerable resonances in the platform where your kit is placed, especially if it's not solid and inert (ie. Wooden and hollow).

Given the incredible quality of your system, I think it's worth getting these things sorted, as far as is practical.

Edit. The same principal applies to the centre speaker, but it is much easier to sort, by de-coupling it from the base.

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

Ben K.'s picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 1 week ago
Joined: 06/11/2010 - 19:40
Posts: 314
RE: some updates

Awesome set up! It's systems like yours that start up the upgrade bug  :twisted:

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

CnoEvil wrote:

clinton333 wrote:

I was a little concerned too initially but it all sounds awesome! The DB1 is astonishing... Really  shifts some air in my room! :twisted:

Vibration and resonance are the enemy of electronics........do you have any other options for placing your sub away from your kit, as sub bass isn't directional. If not, you may be better looking at isolation devices....but there will still be a lot of air-born vibration, with a sub of that quality (you can physically feel it).

The problem you have is that it will sound so much better than it did before, that it will be hard to know in what ways the sound is being subtly degraded. The sub may well be causing considerable resonances in the platform where your kit is placed, especially if it's not solid and inert (ie. Wooden and hollow).

Given the incredible quality of your system, I think it's worth getting these things sorted, as far as is practical.

I totally agree with your comments... I basically chose the positioning as that is where I got the best out of the PV1 in my room... I am yet to experiment further but am fairly restricted in that there are some constraints with other "features" of the room... I do have the option of rotating the base 90 degrees so that it would be firing back and forward... What has astonished me is that when the sub is delivering some serious bass the whole of the DB1 cabinet is absolutely dead... It's amazing and I feel the design itself really puts emphasis into the principals you have mentioned... I have run the room compensation and updated the DB1 with this information... I will certainly try some new positions and follow the same procedure to see how it fairs...

My initial thoughts are extermely positive and if I can better the performance then I am certainly up for that! 

Edit. The same principal applies to the centre speaker, but it is much easier to sort, by de-coupling it from the base.

Yes I agree... I have the centre on some isolation feet at the moment and it seems to have helped as well as bringing it to the very front of the cabinet as previously it was set back a little...

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

Ben K. wrote:

Awesome set up! It's systems like yours that start up the upgrade bug  :twisted:

Thanks mate... I have been taken down a few times with that very bug... >)

CnoEvil's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 21/08/2009 - 18:01
Posts: 12058
RE: some updates

clinton333 wrote:

Yes I agree... I have the centre on some isolation feet at the moment and it seems to have helped as well as bringing it to the very front of the cabinet as previously it was set back a little...

I've found that Granite Worktop Savers resting on Sorbothane feet work well....as would an Auralex Gramma.

Can the Sub be turned through 90 deg (and brought forward a little), so it 's firing forward / backwards?......and the EQ would take care of the rest.

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

clinton333's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 25/03/2011 - 21:48
Posts: 102
RE: some updates

CnoEvil wrote:

clinton333 wrote:

Yes I agree... I have the centre on some isolation feet at the moment and it seems to have helped as well as bringing it to the very front of the cabinet as previously it was set back a little...

I've found that Granite Worktop Savers resting on Sorbothane feet work well....as would an Auralex Gramma.

Can the Sub be turned through 90 deg (and brought forward a little), so it 's firing forward / backwards?......and the EQ would take care of the rest.

Yes I can unscrew the base and rotate it 90 degrees according to the manual so as I can change the orientation of the drive units and still see/use the display and options... I will need my trusty helper for this as it's a little on the heavy side :O

I will give it all it's first full length feature workout tonight and see what happens... Just need to get down to my not so local now Blockbuster :doh:

CnoEvil's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 21/08/2009 - 18:01
Posts: 12058
RE: some updates

clinton333 wrote:

Yes I can unscrew the base and rotate it 90 degrees according to the manual so as I can change the orientation of the drive units and still see/use the display and options... I will need my trusty helper for this as it's a little on the heavy side :O

IMO. That is by far the easiest (and cheapest) solution.

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

Pages

Log in or register to post comments