a91gti wrote:It's worth noting that I'm forty and consider the vast majority of people under thirty a waste of skin.
It's worth noting that I'm forty and consider the vast majority of people under thirty a waste of skin.
I think thats a bit of an over generalisation...
Tell me that in a few years
Hmmm, all change
These may look familiar from page 1
They are the same pair of ATC SCM10s :grin:
Managed to keep in touch with the person who bought them off me, and have been umming and arring over the past 6 months or so if I should buy them back as he had them sat unused. 6 hours in the car later and they were mine, once again!
They will be joined by a Rega Apollo-R and Brio-R combo to try, hopefully the start of a smart, super simple (and easy to use) system
And a little room treatment. How is that working out?
Yamaha V2065. MS Mezzo 5.1 Panasonic 42. Sony BD. Garrard 86SB. WD Live TV. SkyHD.
RobinKidderminster wrote:And a little room treatment. How is that working out?
It works well, I had these in the corners before but tried them first with the Kolts in this position and it works really well, seems to help a lot with the soundstage and bass depth especially.
Acoustic treatment behind speakers is a great idea, and as you say it can clean things up significantly. I have a GIK panel hanging behind each speaker. Which reminds me, I must get some photos up soon.
The screen door slams, Mary's dress waves ...
I fancy trying some of the GIK panels, they do tend to turn up every so often at good prices second hand.
Yes, seen a few on the Wam and PFM.
Matched to the colour of your walls (white in my case), they're pretty unobtrusive. I now have three panels behind the listening position, which have helped to clarify the top end.
The Brio-R/Apollo-R combo.
Well to go with the ATCs, I went for a package deal from of another forum member for the Brio-R/Apollo-R he was selling to try as a stop gap.
I really did not get on with the Apollo-R, just sounded bright/splashy in the treble and boomy/odd in the bass. Not heard so much of a change between CDPs before and it only lasted a weekend. I much preferred the Sony, much smoother all round.
The Brio-R did better than I expected though, sounded good but not brilliant. Bit rough round the edges but a lot more drive/balls than the Brio3 I had when I owned the SCM10s previously.
I can see where the Rega electronics get their lively/get-up-and-go sound from but I find it a little tiresome, I much prefer their speakers based on my experiences (R1, R3, R7, Alya and Jura)
The replacement for the Brio-R, a little Bryston B60. Sounding very good, really like it!
Sounds a lot better IMO and that's just on one evenings listening. Initially I thought it sounded a bit loose/soft in the bass until I went out the room and realised how loud I was listening, much higher than I usually did but it just sounded so un-strained in the mid-treble, its just the bass dynamics with the little 80dB SCM10s and 60wpc B60 has its obvious limits. As mentioned though, its louder than I would usually listen I just did not realise how loud it was!
At more normal volumes it sounds great, bass is great, tight and punchy with good depth, not the lowest but then that's the limitation of the ATCs again. There was no hint of grain/harshness in the treble I have had from the Brio-R and other SS amps, the B60 really is a gem of an amp if you dont NEED massive power. Runs quite cool as well which is nice, even after the hammering with some John Grant or Orbital at high volumes it was barely warm to the touch!
Pretty impressed I have to say! Seems to go well with the Sony as well!
Always fascinating reading. Your energy continues to astound and bemuse in equal measure, especially as someone whose amp in their main listening system is the same one that has resided there for over twenty years now! Keep up the good work Hoops.
James7 wrote:Always fascinating reading. Your energy continues to astound and bemuse in equal measure, especially as someone whose amp in their main listening system is the same one that has resided there for over twenty years now! Keep up the good work Hoops.
Its not the intention, hopefully will settle at some point!
Some more recent developments, I was lucky enough to borrow some Harbeth P3ES off a local friend which were really nice.
I have never had any Harbeth speakers but I was interested in the little P3ES as its a natural contender to the SCM10 and Kolts.
They are a bit more efficient than the Kolts and SCM10s (both 80dB Vs ~83dB) and certainly sit in the middle in terms of bass extension (not including the Xtender) as they have a bit more depth than the Kolts but not as much as the SCM10s.
In my room I do prefer them without the Xtender connected, the midrange seems to suffer, which is a shame as its that which really stands out with the Harbeths. The extender does not seem to go that deep either, just a little bit and the bass is not the best, maybe they are designed for larger rooms.
They have nice overall balance, although verging towards a little bright compared to the SCM10s, which is not always a bad thing as the SCM10s can (and do) sound a bit flat with less than great recordings, where as the Harbeths give a little enjoyment while not being too far from the 'truth'.
The little Harbeths do lack a little dynamics, even when compared to the SCM10, which is noticable with any kind of dance/electronic music but again, better than the Kolts.
Then, this weekend, my 'Dream' speakers have arrived at Hoops Manor.
After owning the Rega R1, R3s and really missing my R7s I sold many years back, with much regret, I had been looking for another pair of R7s. To my surprise I was offered a pair of even rarer Rega R9s, I never though A. that I would ever find a pair and B. that I could afford a pair. But alas, a pair came along at a price I could not refuse, and after a cancellation of a previous engagement yesterday, I fired up the metro and drove t'up north to collect them!
I had been looking at the Harbeths + Sub idea after playing with the P3ES but I was also after the R7s so thought I would go for the R9s as they really don't come up often and thought it was too good to pass on. I assume they did not sell many, these are 00049 and 00050 serial numbers.
The Tannoys have been relegated to the spare room as part of a long term project.
Given their size I had thought that they might be a bit big for my room, and would require the built in bass-attenuation setting, but actually they work pretty well, might need some more experimentation (tried some more positions since the photo) but initial impression seems they sound a bit better in my room with the bass drivers on the inside and toed in a little.