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RE: my DREAM system. oh, maybe one day...

yes, unfortunately came back from a short break to a flooded flat. looks like a valve was broken during some appliance installation work earlier and it was dripping for several days without us noticing. came back - kitchen flooded, living room half flooded and still have to find what the damage is downstairs!!!

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Sorry to hear that's happened - hassle no-one needs! Hope you get it sorted easily and quickly...

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A year or so since the new system and I was thinking what would I do differently if I was doing it now (not that I am unhappy with the system, on the contrary. It would have been a slightly different way of achieving the same)

 

So, if I was doing it today I could have gone for:

 

-          Nas + Squeezebox Touch instead of MacMini

-          Small pre-amp with remote instead of Benchmark dac/preamp

-          ATC 100s or 150s and no sub instead of ATC 50s + sub

 

Reasons:

-          SB touch is more user friendly, especially for others at home who do not want to fiddle with the mac computer (however, SB touch would mean that I have to manage the library from another computer). a nas would also allow more options for general back up and sharing at home)

-          Sb touch already has a dac and it does not sound much different from the benchmark. SB + preamp is also much cheaper than MacMini + benchmark.

-          In the new flat I realised that the speakers can have better bass response so a sub is less necessary (although still nice to have!)

 

For the second system:

-          still use SB touch (playing from nas)

-          AVI ADM 9t instead of Denon DM38 + passive speakers

 

Reasons:

-          less boxes and higher sound quality with the ADMs.

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Very interesting AlmaataKZ. What would be the rough price difference between the two approaches? And have you given any further thought to changes to your second system?

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the main system woudl be a grand or 1.5 cheaper depending on the preamp and not considering sub/speakers options.

on the second system the plan is to have a demo of AVI ADMs - some time in November maybe.

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AlmaataKZ wrote:
Sb touch already has a dac and it does not sound much different from the benchmark. SB + preamp is also much cheaper than MacMini + benchmark.

It's interesting to hear that the Squeezebox Touch sounds almost good a £1.5K Benchmark DAC. I've quite tempted to get a SB Touch myself, I don't really need one but they do look very cool and it would be more convenient.

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ATC 100s or 150s and no sub instead of ATC 50s + sub.

Do you think that the ATC 100's or 150's might have too much bass in your new flat? I would have thought that the ATC 50 + sub would be better because you can adjust the bass depending on what your listening to.

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the second system the plan is to have a demo of AVI ADMs

It'll be interesting to see how well these compare to the ATC's.

Hi-Fi - Teufel DecoderStation 5 > AVI DM5

Head-Fi - Epiphany Acoustics EHP-O2Di > Sennheisser HD700

Portable - Sony NWZ-A847 > Westone UM3x

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steve_1979 wrote:
I would have thought that the ATC 50 + sub would be better because you can adjust the bass depending on what your listening to. 

I tend not to adjust the sub settings once set-up.

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... and finally, after almost 3 months of beeing away, I can enjoy the music again. Took some days off so the music does not stop playing!

and, I finally got to audition some small speakers for the second system. Been off to Bartlett's HiFi today and had demos of (in order of demo):

Active - AVI ADM 9T, abt 1,000 gbp

Passive - PMC OB1i, abt 1,000 gbp

Active - Adam Artist 3, abt 600 gbp

Active - Dynaudio Focus 110 A, abt 1,600 gbp

Impressions:

the ADMs sound excellent. I read a lot of people say they are short on bass, but I was quite impressed with the opposite - good powerful sound. excellent dynamics. comparing to my current active ATC 50s - not much of a compromise if any (given the size). vey impressive. on the large side and heavy. Finish quality I would say compared to the others is not as good (OK overall but some plastic details are cheap looking).

next, the PMC - I wanted to see any contrast with a passive speaker and also on bass (as transmission lines are supposed to be bassy). once again, impressive sound for the size, good dynamics, but a bit boomy to my taste. Good looks and finish quality.

next, Adam Artist 3 - again, excellent dynamics and, unexpectedly for the small size, good bass. Excellent finish quality (although I could do without the lights and wish the knobs were more refined)

next, Dynaudio Focus 110a - excellent sound but a bit boomy. moving away from wall helped a bit. excellent finish.

So, my choice based on auditioning: the ADMs.

Choice on reflection: Dunno yet. on coming back home and visualising the ADMs where they would go I realised that they are probably too big... which makes me think - Artist 3? ...

Anything else I should try?

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Perhaps you could cover up the lights on the Adams?

Why would the ADMs be too big?

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maybe lights are ok. the speakers would be powered via an ir remote controlled socket so the light will be only on when playing.

the adms woudl look a bit too imposing / hanging over on top of a tall chest of drawers... according to my other half... I actually agree.

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Those Adams look amazingly like the original Wharfedale Diamonds, other than the odd-looking tweeter.

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AlmaataKZ wrote:

Anything else I should try?

Try auditioning Focal's active SMC range - 40/50/60. The 40s can be head for less than 500 quid for two. They're tiny and built like a tank and produce incredibly big sound for the size, with neutral and precise presentation. Similarly important is their great looks. Needless to say I got me a pair, to use with SB Touch in the bedroom. Smile

Really pleased with this setup.

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Mr. Iceman wrote:
Try auditioning Focal's active SMC range - 40/50/60.

Actually it's Focal's CMS 40/50/65 range...

http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/cms-line/index.php

(Just to avoid confusion.)

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Thanks! Will check the Focals out.

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chebby wrote:

Mr. Iceman wrote:
Try auditioning Focal's active SMC range - 40/50/60.

Actually it's Focal's CMS 40/50/65 range...

http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/cms-line/index.php

(Just to avoid confusion.)

Of course! Thanks chebby.

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