Lounge tart up.....PT-1
Well I have started to completely re do our lounge, thought about the best way to go with this regards speakers Tv etc, so decided to go with in-walls
Floorstaders would have been nice but to big really, stand mounts again with stands not really an option, so went with in-walls. With in-walls it is a complete lottery as to which ones to go with, with so many makes and price ranges it can be very overwhelming, even more so when you can not dem any well not unless you are spending alot of money, so after some researching and trying to find reviews it was a case of going with a well known name, I decided to go with Monitor Audio and even then I still could dicide which models to go for, what I did find and is a good tip for any one who is considering in-walls choose a model you think will give you the sound/bass and quality you need, but then compare the other models as well, I found that spending say £200 per speaker it is easy then to look at another model very similar which is £275 but the difference is may be 10-watts more, It is a bit like on these very forums many people ask what is the difference between say the Pioneer LX-85 & 86 not a lot really maybe a couple of extras that are not that important but costs say £500 more, so when looking at in-walls try to pick one make and then decide which model will serve you well for your room, also there is a concern about which type of in-wall sealed [sealed with an enclosure on the back] or open [drivers exposed] well most good quality in-walls come with a back box [a box custom made box which fits between the joists with a cut out for the speaker] I think if buying a sealed in-wall then as long as the prep work work loist fixings are good you will be fine, but with open back speakers or even sealed ones come to that spend a little time to reinforce and line the joists the best you can, for example depending on the size of speaker of course and you can not buy a back box [and they can be a lot of money] alow a little more distance between the joists then make a box or line the joists with a thick MDF, personally I would make a box drill glue screw, some in-walls come a template for the hole so this makes life a little easier but take your time, AND very importantly make sure you leave enough of a flange around the box for the fixing tabs to grab hold of [ I have seen this happen] fix the box to the joists securley and away you go, another thing to bare in mind to, is what finnish do I want on the front, most in-stalls are finished with plaster-board over the top of the box and decorated, but some I have seen have been finished with a gloss slab [white/black] sort of thing you see on kitchens MDF and this looks very nice, again remember if you double up on the front ie plaster board then another finish on top you will start to restrict the distance from front to back, so you might find the fixing tabs do not open that wide, however I have found most good in-walls give a good gap for fixing.
Crikey have I really waffled on that much, so sorry I felt that alot of questions that are asked regarding home-cinema in-stalls etc especailly us mear mortals who can not afford dedicated £100,000,000 cinema rooms 
need as much help and guidence as poss, and I would point out now that I am not in any way or form an expert, these are my own opinions and observations that I have picked up along the way, with a little time effort and not alot of money you can have a really nice set up be it in-walls or otherwise I would like to think I am an Ok DIYer I have done it for over 35-years. Anyway some pictures
errrrmmm I have just realised... which is the best way to upload images I have flicr, will this work?? I assumed there was a browse option sorry 
Here are some basic images of the lounge layout.
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Just a basic idea of size and work in progress, as you can see I have dropped the ceiling this will allow LED Down lighters and add a feature around the room.. hopefully
More to come.
Ok well that went well..any ideas please regarding images 
jesus.......
Pioneer7. Here you go...
Chebby 
Thank you....how the hell did you do that?? please share...
Ok as you can see not a big room, the wall you see in the picture is the back wall, the door leads into the garden, plus there is a window as well to deal with, the plan is to extend the curtain rail all the way along the wall over the door, covering window and door with full length curtains, also a major problem is placement of surround speakers, especailly sides and rears, as the settee is against the back wall so lowering the ceiling will allow in-ceiling speakers, in the mean time I will concentrate on the front wall, more pickys coming soon.
Chebby again thanks for the images 
eerrrm if I continue to have problems perhgaps you would be kind enough to assist with the uploading, will give it another go later.
An interesting project. Keep us up to date please. I'm a voyeur. First suggestion, since u are undertaking a serious project is to get the setee away from the rear wall. Bass trap corners. Good luck.
Hello robinkiderminster
Moving the settee is not an option, this is a major problem people have when trying to place rear speakers, there are so many conflicting opinions as to how this should be done, this link here is a good guide especailly with in wall and in ceiling, but even then most will not want to start puling there lounge around and dropping ceilings, I think that the best way is to try and experiment, but again this can become frustrating, anyway here a link for readers to have a gander at.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ehn4kD1WhfD/learn/learningcenter/home/speak...
Here is another link this shows how to implement height speakers and extra side effect speakers, it seems that it is never ending, can you imagine asking the other half.. eerrrm dear what do you think about having a 11.2 speaker system.... 
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/home-theater/dolby-pro-logic-iiz-details.html
Robinkiderminster
I see you have Mordaunt Short speakers, interesting stay tuned....
Some more pickys hopefully.
As you can see I went with Mordant short these were advertised as discontinued came with back boxes at no extra cost, and for the money it was worth a go,and really a no brainer, I was still in the same position though I did not really know what I was getting, as with Monitor Audio Mordant short is a well known make, maybe not as big but still highly regarded so I went for it. The models are Avant Architech AW-153s these will be my Left & Right along with a AW-162 as centre duties.
Here is a link to give you the info for those who are interested
http://www.old.qualifi.com.au/index.jsp;jsessionid=A96BE87232317AD67E65D...
As you can see I have boarded the underside of the dropped ceiling and lighned part of the wall, this has been done with Sound Sheild this comes in 8x4 sheets just like normal plaster board, but this is very very heavy and is a 2-man job especailly when trying to lift and screw on to a ceiling, the ceiling was screwed and fixed with an adhesive a strong one from any DIY store this gives extra strength and gives the board something to grab and fits snuggly, rather than dot and dab I used the same method on the wall, fixing the board directly to the wall then stud work on top then boarding again, this will give extra sound protection [hopefully] so thats it for the moment, more later.
Ok lets see if I can get the pictures up
Some more pickys hopefully.
As you can see I went with Mordant short these were advertised as discontinued came with back boxes at no extra cost, and for the money it was worth a go,and really a no brainer, I was still in the same position though I did not really know what I was getting, as with Monitor Audio Mordant short is a well known make, maybe not as big but still highly regarded so I went for it. The models are Avant Architech AW-153s these will be my Left & Right along with a AW-162 as centre duties.
Here is a link to give you the info for those who are interested
http://www.old.qualifi.com.au/index.jsp;jsessionid=A96BE87232317AD67E65D...
As you can see I have boarded the underside of the dropped ceiling and lighned part of the wall, this has been done with Sound Sheild this comes in 8x4 sheets just like normal plaster board, but this is very very heavy and is a 2-man job especailly when trying to lift and screw on to a ceiling, the ceiling was screwed and fixed with an adhesive a strong one from any DIY store this gives extra strength and gives the board something to grab and fits snuggly, rather than dot and dab I used the same method on the wall, fixing the board directly to the wall then stud work on top then boarding again, this will give extra sound protection [hopefully] so thats it for the moment, more later.
Ok lets see if I can get the pictures up
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8451326536/]Lounge 002[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8451327958/]Lounge 003[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8451326536/]Lounge 002[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8450235657/]Lounge 009[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8450236537/]Lounge 004[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
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[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/41528692@N05/8450236219/]Lounge 007[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/41528692@N05/]pioneer16[/url], on Flickr
well I dont know what I am doing wrong....anyone helpout 
L-R Mordaunt Short Avant 153 in-walls. Avant 165 Centre in-wall. Performance Subwoofer. Pioneer BDP-450 Blu-ray Player. QED Cables Pioneer Amp[to buy]
Panasonic 50-GT50.Plasma
My system http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/lounge-tart-uppt-1