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I've shamefully neglected this thread for a couple of months, during which I've been busy, but nothing is quite finished. This is a brief summary, with pics to follow:

Main system

The Devialet 170 arrived eventually after a protracted delay. Instead of using it in the living room, I've put it in my study, which is the same size as the living room but has better acoustics. These are helped by a pair of GIK 240 bass panels mounted on the wall behind a pair of ex-demo Sonus faber Cremona Auditor Ms. The source is a new Synology DS213J connected direct to the Dev by USB. The decor of the room needs some TLC.

Living room

My former study system is now in the living room: Sonos Connect (Wyred4Sound-mod) into Audiolab M-DAC (Lakewest L2 'Toy' mod) into Cyrus X Power into Sonus faber Venere 1.5s. The Veneres are now on stands and look rather elegant.

Dining room

No change: Sonos Connect into Arcam Sonlink into Musical Fidelity M1 PWR into wall-mounted Neat Iotas.

Kitchen

The pair of Linn Uniks that were replaced by the Iotas have been installed, so there are now two pairs of wall-mounted Uniks fed by a Sonos ZP100. (It's an odd-shaped room.)

Somewhere down the M4

This is my project for the coming weekend. The old Yammy AV amp will be going on ebay. Never got on with surround sound, and in fact most of what goes on in this room is 2-channel audio. So a second-hand Sugden A21a arrived this week. I plan to run this with a Sonos ZP90 (Fidelity Audio mod), Musical Fidelity V90-DAC and some old Musical Technology Kestrel floorstanders. The aim is to pick up some second-hand floorstanders in the next year or so.

this thread is worthless without photos... :? :twisted: :wave:

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this thread is worthless without photos... :? :twisted: :wave:

You're right. Coming soon.

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The latest addition is a Peachtree decco2, which is doing service in my second system, driving the Sonus faber Veneres.

It's is the old model of the decco (bought second hand for £300). The spec is:

ESS Sabre 9006 DAC

Class A preamp, with switchable valve stage

Class A/B power amp, 40 W

Photos to follow.

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...Still waiting... Wink :grin:

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Where does the Sugden fit in?

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Where does the Sugden fit in?

It's in our holiday cottage. Still looking for the right second-hand speakers for it.

:santa:

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Where does the Sugden fit in?

It's in our holiday cottage. Still looking for the right second-hand speakers for it.

:santa:

Matt

There will be some Proacs somewhere with your name on them.  :rockout:

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The new (i.e. second-hand) Peachtree is now installed in the living room, driving the Veneres and taking signals from a modded Sonos Connect via SPDIF and from the TV via optical. I'll report on the sonics after Xmas. For now, here's the installation, including a neat trick!

Lots of smart black shiny kit, but the Connect looks out of place.

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OK, so turn the Peachtree around.

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Remove the back plate.

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And in she goes ...

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Nice and snug.

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That's better!

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Little things please little minds.

Happy Xmas!

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There will be some Proacs somewhere with your name on them.  :rockout:

Yes, I just missed out on some D2s on eBay.

Horror of horrors, I'm also thinking of some PMC twenty.22s. Quite a different sound, but I think the synergy might be good. And 90dB sensitivity.

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The new (i.e. second-hand) Peachtree is now installed in the living room, driving the Veneres and taking signals from a modded Sonos Connect via SPDIF and from the TV via optical. I'll report on the sonics after Xmas. For now, here's the installation, including a neat trick!

Is this the "poor man's" Devialet?  Wink

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The new (i.e. second-hand) Peachtree is now installed in the living room, driving the Veneres and taking signals from a modded Sonos Connect via SPDIF and from the TV via optical. I'll report on the sonics after Xmas. For now, here's the installation, including a neat trick!

Is this the "poor man's" Devialet?  Wink

I suppose you could say that, yes. Though of course it doesn't sound anywhere near as transparent or dynamic. But for the Veneres it seemed like a good bet.

I wanted something that'd look smart and simple in the living room. Then this second-hand decco2 popped up on Hifi Wigwam for £300, and it seemed too good to resist.

So one box replaces an ugly array of three boxes, i.e. the modded M-DAC (which is now working as a headphone amp in my study), the Cyrus X Power (which will be sold on, thankfully), and the Sonos Connect (which has been cleverly gobbled up by the decco2). And the one box sounds better than the three, even though the X Power had more watts.

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And the one box sounds better than the three, even though the X Power had more watts.

interesting. I would have thought the digital section of the Peachtree wouldn't be able to compete with the modded Audiolab, and that the power amp section would be outclassed by the Cyrus. But your early observations suggest not. I assume that it is the Peachtree's power amp section that is primarily responsible for the improved sound quality - is this a synergy thing do you think? I imagine the Cyrus to be leaner, and perhaps a less good fit for the Sonus fabers ... ?

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And the one box sounds better than the three, even though the X Power had more watts.

interesting. I would have thought the digital section of the Peachtree wouldn't be able to compete with the modded Audiolab, and that the power amp section would be outclassed by the Cyrus. But your early observations suggest not. I assume that it is the Peachtree's power amp section that is primarily responsible for the improved sound quality - is this a synergy thing do you think? I imagine the Cyrus to be leaner, and perhaps a less good fit for the Sonus fabers ... ?

James, you're probably right about the digital stage, though the Peachtree does use an ESS Sabre DAC chip, like the MDAC. It's also worth bearing in mind that the Peachtree's preamp stage is pure Class A.

My feeling is that the Cyrus was, as you say, just far too lean sounding.

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matt49 wrote:

And the one box sounds better than the three, even though the X Power had more watts.

interesting. I would have thought the digital section of the Peachtree wouldn't be able to compete with the modded Audiolab, and that the power amp section would be outclassed by the Cyrus. But your early observations suggest not. I assume that it is the Peachtree's power amp section that is primarily responsible for the improved sound quality - is this a synergy thing do you think? I imagine the Cyrus to be leaner, and perhaps a less good fit for the Sonus fabers ... ?

James, you're probably right about the digital stage, though the Peachtree does use an ESS Sabre DAC chip, like the MDAC. It's also worth bearing in mind that the Peachtree's preamp stage is pure Class A.

My feeling is that the Cyrus was, as you say, just far too lean sounding.

:cheers:

Matt

I was, of course, being a bit dim when I wrote that last post. I should have mentioned that John Westlake, he of MDAC fame, also designed the Peachtree decco2 -- which explains why both units use the same DAC chip. I guess.

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CnoEvil wrote:

Where does the Sugden fit in?

It's in our holiday cottage. Still looking for the right second-hand speakers for it.

:santa:

Matt

There will be some Proacs somewhere with your name on them.  :rockout:

Well, I've been looking out for some nice second-hand Harbeths or Proacs for the cottage system, but no joy after several months of waiting. One day ...

Anyway, this evening I picked up a pair of beautifully looked-after second-hand PMC GB1is from a nice chap on the 'Wam. I've had my eye on this model for a while. They're exactly the right format: small, slim floorstanders.

My experience with the PMC twenty series hasn't been altogether positive. I find the top end rather harsh. I've also heard the Fact 8s a couple of times and thought they were OKish, but expensive. But I do think PMC make good speakers, and the "i" series are more to my taste. 

How well will they work with the Sugden A21a? No idea, but as they're second hand and retain their value fairly well, I think the financial downside is small. 

It'll be a week or two before I get them set up, and you know how useless I am at posting photos ...

:cheers:

Matt

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