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Don't just blame your system !!
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I have heard a lot of people saying that they are not happy with their hifi system and try to upgrade their CD player, amplifier, speakers and interconnects as well as speaker cables etc. hoping to obtain a better sound. Well, upgrading your system involves money as well as time to find the right matches and in many cases they are found to be not cost effective.      A lot of people just blame their system of not performing good enough and have never though the problem is on their listening environment which requires some improvement.  I can assure you that by investing a relatively small amount of money you will be amazed by the improvement you got.  It can easily be achieved by just tweaking your room with some acoustic treatment.      The are lots of articles on acoustic treatment and the following link gives you some idea how to do it:    http://www.realtraps.com/art_basics.htm  Recently I spent about £150 in bass traps and acoustic tiles in my room and the result is extraordinary.  I am completely amazed by the great improvement in my listening environment and the money is well spent.  Before you consider buying, say, a better speaker cable or power cable why not use these money on bass traps and acoustic tiles first.     
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Re: Don't just blame your system !!

This sounds like an ad to me ???

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slewis:This sounds like an ad to me ???


Ditto

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You're not wrong slewis.

This is an aspect of hifi that does make a difference, and it's all very well for those with a dedicated room, but for those who have their system in the living room, having funny shaped and coloured foam bits lying around the room just isn't an option. Most users have big problems getting the speakers past the other half, let alone funny foam shapes.

DavidF @FrankHarveyHiFi, Coventry.

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Whilst the opening post does read like an advert for Ethan Winner (who does know his stuff and if you google him there is lots of interesting hifi related info), I agree room acoustics are too often ignored.

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slewis:This sounds like an ad to me ???

sounds like good advice to me. Smile

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FrankHarveyHiFi:Most users have big problems getting the speakers past the other half, let alone funny foam shapes.



LOL Indeed! Most of us have bigger acoustics issues with our speakers than the room's effect.

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FrankHarveyHiFi:You're not wrong slewis.

This is an aspect of hifi that does make a difference, and it's all very well for those with a dedicated room, but for those who have their system in the living room, having funny shaped and coloured foam bits lying around the room just isn't an option. Most users have big problems getting the speakers past the other half, let alone funny foam shapes.

i know what you mean David, but there are plenty of broadband absorbers printed with artwork that stand out no more then, well, artwork on the wall.  not much in it for a dealer though. Wink

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I've just moved house and that has been the biggest upgrade I've made to my system. I'm very lucky in that I have very few compromises to make re. Speaker placement etc, but unless you're moving anyway probably not an upgrade path many would follow

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First of all I have to confess that I have no idea who the author is and I don't know him.  I came across his article when I searched the internet to find out what would be the effect of applying acoustic material towards my living room.   This article is considered to be easy to understand to everyone and that is why I put up the link.  Actually apart from this article I have seen a number of good discussions in forum on acoustic and I have learnt a lot from them.

As I said in my previous post my listening environment has improved a lot after some acoustic treatment.  Actually I used a free software called Room EQ Wizard downloadable from the web to measure my living room's frequency response and the ETC (energy time curve) to find out the sources of reflections (I know this software only from the forum discussion).  If you are serious enough to improve your listening environment I suggest you should try this software which is rather simple to use.  However regarding the interpretation of the curves you need to spend some time to find it out yourself from the various forum on acoustics.        

 

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To supplement my previous post, if you are interested in acoustic treatment for your living room you may try searching in e-Bay for "bass traps" and "acoustic tiles".  My 150 pounds acoustic materials were all from e_Bay.  Alternatively you may DIY your own bass traps and acoustic panels as well as diffusers.  Just google and make a search yourself. 

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Having said that, we saw a lounge once in person dominated by hifi - one end for the system, one end for a wall of CDs and LPs and with 4 massive bass traps in each corner.

Mind you, he did say all this was all set up before he met his partner!


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Hows about some pics Smile

Oh and btw thanks!

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