I will add review of these if anyone is interested. But photos for now
Assembling the cabinets
First layers of paint
Crossovers inside cabinets.
Drivers are in
Speaker number two finished
Breaking in the drivers
And with door to cab closed
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But to answer your question - yes, intrigued. How much did the kit set you back?
Not cheap. Wilmslow audio made the kit bespoke for me based on a speaker built by Troels Gravesen.
Expensive parts were woofers and crossovers. And I now know that this is where money should spent. Each woofer is approx £135
My review from Troels' web site below
Here are some pictures and a short "review" of my Eekels Mini project.
I will just provide a quick update on my impressions so far. And I am pretty sure these are on the subjective side, as I spent a lot of time putting the speakers together. They are currently placed on 70 centimetre high stands.
Compared to most other speakers of a similar size, these actually have a decent amount of bass. The 4” driver seriously moves. When playing Slayer or Metallica it has loads of speed and attack. The deep bass that hits you in the stomach is missing, but I can live with this compromise. And comparing them to my old B&W speakers, these have less bottom end for this kind of music. But the bass seems much more even and integrated with the music.
But the real gem is the tweeter. At first this was a massive disappointment. It was dull and can only be described as closed. They opened up on the first weekend of playing in, but was still nowhere near as “hyperactive” as the B&Ws. And I guess this was a sound I was used to. But now these SEAS tweeters have really opened up, but differently to the B&Ws – not hyperactive. When I first turn the stereo on, I am always a little aware that the tweeter is not as pronounced and “present” as the previous speakers. But, like now, after hours of listening I have no music fatigue. This sometimes happened when listening for long periods of time with other speakers. Now the high frequencies are just there. Not sure how to describe it, but they just seem to flow in to the room and “be present”. This tweeter is an absolutely outstanding piece of music of audio engineering. And not sounding like any other metal tweeter I have heard before.
Last point I would like to cover, and where I think the hard work you have put in really shows, is what I hear as seamless integration between woofer and tweeter. I am not listening to speakers anymore – I listen to music with a huge grin on my face, wishing every record would have the quality of Gaucho by Steely Dan.
I am using the speakers with Cyrus (XTse CD drive, PreXPd preamp and DAC and X Power power amp - all with external power supply)
Again, thank you for your hard work and for sharing with people like me."
I highly recommend his web site for more insight into speakers and what is required to make them sound good
Excellent build, they look really good in your room...are you going to make anymore?
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I was considering the same solution as you have, with a revised crossover and a sub woofer type thing instead of the stands. But now I am also considering a speaker from Troels Gravesen called CNO. One for the winter
They look very smart, great job.
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Top work. They look the business.
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Ahh great, someone else who has found kit speakers CAN sound better than far more expensive 'ready to go' ones. I also visited Wilmslow Audio and didnt quite find what I wanted. However, theres another company called IPL Acoustics and afer speaking to Ivan he assured me he had the gear. After assembling them with a bit of overkill in places (glue everywhere!) I duly fired them into life, gently at first then building up. The disappointment was almost heartbreaking - as roten had tweeter anomalies so did I, but the bass unit sounded truly awful and coloured. Remembering Ivans advice they were 'ran in' with mainly rock music at differing levels mainly to work the bass drivers. Well, all I can say is that they still sound fantastic after 4 years; furthermore, after visiting the Manchester Hi-Fi show, only the very good Wharfedale Jade 5's sounded anywhere close..but they cost 4 times more than my IPL's! Just to round off, and Im not sure if this applies to Wilmslow Audio's kit, IPL will advise on which crossover components to change to suit your environment and supply the components. For me, this is the HUGE advantage over stock speakers - highly recommended!
Thank you all for your comments! Much appreciated
Paulkebab - Wilmslow only helped with the components of the crossovers. The original design is from Troels Gravesen. And he has loads of information on his web site about all sorts of tweaking
And I have only heard very good things about IPL. And I know that some have tried to change the crossovers to fit personal taste etc, just to end up back at original design.
Indeed roten, I've only ever 'lightly-tuned' the crossovers, anything more indicates a different driver is needed. I'm really pleased you found that a kit can deliver if you know what sound you want. Great stuff and I think WHFi should run an article on kits...would make interesting reading!
How much then? :) Go on, spill the beans.....
Cost of speakers - all in all around 700 squids, including costly stands and cable
But it has def been worth it.
Will bring them along for demos of Naim shortly, and will be interesting to compare them against similar speakers at dealer
Lovely setup, your pics have just given me a great idea for my setup...lol
I may set my TV up like yours on a cab next to the chimney breast like you have...
Giving me ideas, so hard atm to find an AV cab to match a coffee table and to match a corner unit....
And on and on ..... lol.
I'll get there!.
May i ask where your TV unit is from its very snazzy!
Too many things to list but spent a fortune!
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