Have your say & ask the experts!

Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

12 replies [Last post]
Clare Newsome
Clare Newsome's picture
Offline
Joined: 4 Jun 2007
Posts: 13733

Thought i'd share something a BT Broadband engineer just told me re the service's broadband speeds.

Essentially, they monitor what you're using and apportion bandwidth accordingly. So if you're a heavy broadband user, you should get decent speeds, while more casual users will be running at lower speeds.

So far so understandable, BUT.... if your usage patterns change - for example you go on holiday for a couple of weeks (so your broadband usage tails off) - the service will adapt.

That means heavy users are likely to come back from holiday to much slower broadband speeds, which will only ramp up to their usual level once the system recognises the higher usage rate and adjusts back to your established profile.

Secondly, it means if you're a BT Broadband customer suddenly ramping up your internet usage - such as adopting a streaming service like LoveFilm or Netflix - it could be worth pushing past any pain barrier of initially slow broadband speeds while the network learns your new heavier rates. You should then get higher speeds...

 

 

__________________

Group PR Manager - Computers Unlimited;

Former Group Editor of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision and Whathifi.com

Twitter: @ClareNewsome

ianr23gp
ianr23gp's picture
Offline
Joined: 5 Feb 2008
Posts: 117
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Interesting read, thanks for sharing. I'm assuming that this applies to all Internet Service Providers and not just BT?

Perhaps you could stream those sorts of services overnight for a copule of days (without actually watching...!). Might take away the initial pain.

chebby
chebby's picture
Offline
Joined: 2 Jun 2008
Posts: 13202
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

This was happening 5 years ago before we moved from BT to Virgin Cable.

We used to have a fixed 2mbps broadband connection with BT that was superb (until early 2007). The speed never varied and it had bomb-proof reliability.

Then we had to change to ADSL and everything went bad. At 1.2 miles from the nearest digital POP we were lucky to get 1 mbps and it often went below this to 'dial-up' speeds.

Three visits from BT engineers only determined that we were "too far away".

The slower the speed, the less we could use it. And the less we could use it, the lower the speed went!

I think the technical term was called 'training'. (As in the circuit 'trained' itself to some optimum speed based on usage and error rate etc.)

After about 3 months of this nonsense we got cable from Virgin Media (then NTL) and never looked back.

 

__________________

Marantz M-CR603 + AirPlay • Rega R3 loudspeakers • iPhone 5 32GB • iMac • Apple Airport Extreme 802.11n • Panasonic TX-L32D25B • Sony BDP-S390 • Ruark Audio R1 Deluxe • Humax HDR-Fox T2

Graham_Thomas
Graham_Thomas's picture
Offline
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 1774
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Clare, does this apply to their own BT Infinity product please?

After years of 3.1 Mbps my exchange has an RFS date for FTTC for 01.06.2012 and I was looking forward to faster speed!

Thanks Smile Smile

__________________

DandyCobalt
DandyCobalt's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Oct 2010
Posts: 1135
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

In theory, we've got Virgin 50mb, but it often struggles to get over 25mb.

We're going to do a usage/speed spreadsheet over a week's usage and then take our case to them formally.

__________________

Main: Pioneer tv + LX85, Sony HW15 Proj, Cyrus DAC XP+/Mono X300/CDXTSE2/PSXRx2, B&W CM8/CM1/PV1D, CA BD751, Virgin TiVo, Inspire Rega t/t, Benz Glider MC, EAR 834P phono amp; Slee Novo Headphone Amp

Second: Panasonic 42" E6B LED, Pioneer VSX-D2011, Kef eggs, Virgin TiVo

Andy Clough
Andy Clough's picture
Offline
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Posts: 5393
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Have noticed a slowdown in my Virgin 30Mb service recently, especially at peak times in the evening. Should obviously use it more Smile

__________________

Andy Clough is Brand Editor of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision and whathifi.com

Clare Newsome
Clare Newsome's picture
Offline
Joined: 4 Jun 2007
Posts: 13733
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Graham_Thomas wrote:

Clare, does this apply to their own BT Infinity product please?

After years of 3.1 Mbps my exchange has an RFS date for FTTC for 01.06.2012 and I was looking forward to faster speed!

Thanks Smile Smile

He made no specific mention of Infinity, other than that obviously the potential speed you can get is far higher.

We're also due for Infinity in June, and i'm considering the upgrade.

Mind you, since the engineer came and upgraded our socketry, we've been enjoying far faster speeds already - up to 20MB from less than half that woohoo!

Could be worth a call-out if you haven't already done so. I found contacting @BTCare via Twitter of more use than the rubbish call centre support.

__________________

Group PR Manager - Computers Unlimited;

Former Group Editor of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision and Whathifi.com

Twitter: @ClareNewsome

bigboss
bigboss's picture
Online
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Posts: 9435
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Maybe heavy Internet use will ensure the cable is properly "burnt in" so the speeds pick up.  Wink

If you don't use it for a while, the cables go "cold" resulting in deterioration in performance. So you have to start the "burning in" process all over again!  banging head against wall

__________________

My Home Cinema  Pioneer KRP 500A, Yamaha RX-V1900, MA Radius R225HD LCR, R90HD rears, AW12 sub, Panasonic BD60, PS3, Boxee Box, Sky HD, Boxee Box, Logitech Harmony One, Logitech PS3 Adapter, Sonos ZP90

Bedroom Samsung UE32C6510, PS3 slim white, Apple TV, Sonos S5, Sonos ZP90, Audioengine 2, Oppo OPDV971H

Miscellaneous: Synology DS212J + 2 X WD Red 2TB drives, WD 1TB NAS, Sonos ZoneBridge, BT HH3 as modem & AirPort Extreme router

bigblue235
bigblue235's picture
Offline
Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 982
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Use it or lose it? I'd love if I could even get it installed!  

I could theoretically have very fast broadband as our building is Gigabit ready. A neighbour has the full-fat service but no-one from the Telecom company seems to want to to sell me that, so I'm stuck at 8 meg. Boo.

 

Graham_Thomas
Graham_Thomas's picture
Offline
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 1774
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Clare Newsome wrote:
He made no specific mention of Infinity, other than that obviously the potential speed you can get is far higher.

We're also due for Infinity in June, and i'm considering the upgrade.

Mind you, since the engineer came and upgraded our socketry, we've been enjoying far faster speeds already - up to 20MB from less than half that woohoo!

Could be worth a call-out if you haven't already done so. I found contacting @BTCare via Twitter of more use than the rubbish call centre support.

Thanks for the reply Clare. We too have the old type socket; however, we are a good way from the exchange - worth a try though.

__________________

amcluesent
amcluesent's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Mar 2009
Posts: 423
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

Nah, the slows downs/speed ups are due to your interwebs traffic being identified as suspicious and routed via GCHQ and scanned for security purposes. If they reckon you're OK, then the traffic is rerouted back directly via the ISP and it speeds up. That's what a man in the pub at Cheltenham told me!

__________________

Stello CDT200, Squeezebox Transporter, Myryad MT100, Audio Analogue Maestro Settanta REV2.0, Sonus Faber Guarneri Homage  · Squeezebox Touch, Quad FM4\34\306, Sonus Faber Concertinos · Squeezebox Controller

chebby
chebby's picture
Offline
Joined: 2 Jun 2008
Posts: 13202
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

amcluesent wrote:
Nah, the slows downs/speed ups are due to your interwebs traffic being identified as suspicious and routed via GCHQ and scanned for security purposes. If they reckon you're OK, then the traffic is rerouted back directly via the ISP and it speeds up. That's what a man in the pub at Cheltenham told me!

Far more alarming that Cheltenham only has one pub it seems.

__________________

Marantz M-CR603 + AirPlay • Rega R3 loudspeakers • iPhone 5 32GB • iMac • Apple Airport Extreme 802.11n • Panasonic TX-L32D25B • Sony BDP-S390 • Ruark Audio R1 Deluxe • Humax HDR-Fox T2

laserman16
laserman16's picture
Offline
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 2195
RE: Want faster broadband? Use it or lose it...

chebby wrote:

Far more alarming that Cheltenham only has one pub it seems.

Must be one dry Town.

Sure there was more than that last time I was there.