How good is Sonos

Well, IMO its directly comparable to CD as a source.

I've got mine attached to a NAS, upon which I've ripped all of my CD's to Apple Lossless. The quality of the output produced sounds pretty good to me. So much so, that I retired my CD player!

Can't comment on the use of a DAC as I've currently connected my ZP90 to my Onk via digi coax and directly to a pair of MA BR1's from my ZP120. Not sure my set-up (see below) would warrant a DAC, but I'm open to other's view on this.

Ketch

In the Onkyo 876 you have fitted as standard one of the best Dacs in the business. (Burr Brown)

Getting them isolated from the power supply 'noise floor' is the key to getting the best from them.

A decent Mains cable off the Tacima will improve things noticably.
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Interesting. To be honest, hadn't really thought of upgrading the mains cable from the Tacima. Hmmmm....... could be worth investigating. Any in particular ones you would recommend?

As to the original OP (apologies for the thread hijack), I'd suggest you arrange for a suitable demo of the Sonos system against your CD player. This is what I did. Spoke to the guys in my local store who ripped my CD to their instore NAS (Apple Lossless as requested) and then let me plug my CD player into the same amp to directly compare the two sources.

Needless to say, I walked out with the Sonos and I've been adding more zones ever since.

And what CD player was that (for reference)?

I love my Sonos, the non-amped one in the living room is plugged into my amp via optical and sounds great, but I can't compare it to a cd player as I've never owned a decent one.

Andy, just seen your gear - I think the Sonos is a wonderful thing, but not convinced that the DAC in it will pass muster compared to your 192 (so yes Joel, I think in this case Arcam beats Lossless Streaming!). So you might want o factor in a reasonable quality DAC - if you do I think you'll equal or beat your current player. No, I'm not going to suggest any .

I tried the rca outs on my zoneplayer and wasn't that impressed, the improvement just from using my ten year old Sony AV amp's DAC was more than noticable.

The Sonos system is wonderful. The interface is good, it supports a range of files, and it is robust.

However, for a main HiFi source you must use a ZP80 or 90, and feed the digital output into a DAC.

Arcam are behind the times so do not make a DAC sadly. You'll have to look at standalone options.

Another option is the Cambridge Audio 840C - a CD player with a digital input.

Many thanks for all the input everyone. I think I'm going to invest but I'll have to do it a bit at a time. Sonus + NAS with DAC maybe later. Too many £££'s all in one go.

JohnDuncan:

And what CD player was that (for reference)?

In fairness, it was nothing special. Just a Cambridge Audio CD5.

Damn. Just had a look at the web site of the store I was thinking of getting the Sonos from, and it's gone up £50.!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I think its amazing with lossless files being played through it ive demoed the dacmagic and in my opinion beat my cyrus cd8x which was a £1000 cd player ive actually got a dac thread in the hi fi section trying to find out what one to go for but ive loved my sonos and has lead to me selling the cyrus!  

flairdj:

I think its amazing with lossless files being played through it ive demoed the dacmagic and in my opinion beat my cyrus cd8x which was a £1000 cd player ive actually got a dac thread in the hi fi section trying to find out what one to go for but ive loved my sonos and has lead to me selling the cyrus!  

Very intresting. I'll have a look for your DAC thread. How does the Sonos sound without the DAC cause if I get one it will be without a DAC at first??

Oh just noticed your using a Buffalo Nas, I was looking at the linkstation, any hic cups etc compatability probs?? Anything I should look out for in a NAS. (I'm not very familiar with networks)

Cheers

Well a lot of people will disagree but i still thought it sounded good without one my dad loved it so much hes investing in one pretty soon too and when he heard mine it hasn't been the stages of when i was demoing a dac.

 I think the Buffalo works very well havent had any issues with it using it with my mac and has worked perfectly out of the box! I set it up in a RAID configuration but also backed it up on a seperate drive i had knocking about that ive left at my sisters i know some would say a little over the top but keeps me happy!

If you are worried there is a list on the sonos site of compatible NAS drives could be worth a look but the entire set up is an absolute doddle to set up. 

Andy H- I got mine from eBay and saved a considerable amount of money! Not for everyone but if you want the name of the vendor I am more than happy to supply it.