At the end if the day, the more tightly packed the pixels are on a TV the better.Try connecting your pc to your TV....it looks horrible close up but not with 4k Television or even a Mac cinema display. TV needs to be more than a ,one trick blu ray pony.It need to do other things equally well. The increase in resolution enhances that ideal.Give it time and the current 4k problems will iron itself out. Even the Kuro took 10 generations to be perfected?
Try connecting your pc to your TV....it looks horrible close up but not with 4k Television or even a Mac cinema display.
I disagree with nearly all your post, but I'll confine myself to just the phrase that I've quoted above. As it happens, I do have my PC connected, via 10m, 15m and 20m long humble 15-pin VGA connectors, to my televisions in the parlour, kitchen and my bedroom. And no, the picture from my PC to my televisions is not horrible, not even close up. I'm not claiming that the picture is wonderful, but it is certainly good enough to watch sport from the USA, which I get on subscription via the internet to my PC, without my being aware of poor quality and I just enjoy the sport.
And have you connected your PC to a 4K television, perchance? If you have, and the picture was good despite the large amount of upscaling involved, then I'm surprised, but that is a feather in your cap!
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Give it time and the current 4k problems will iron itself out.
Which 4k problems are you referring to? Are you including the near impossibility of genuine 4k content delivery?
4k delivery will take more than manufacturing muscle and R&D; it requires information technology and broadcasting infrastructure overhaul.
Personally, I'd be happy enough to see 1080p become a broadcasting standard; though even this seems an unlikely proposition in the near future. The broadcasting powers that be seem to prefer quantity over quality.
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If you have a mac display like I have although only 27 inch the resolution is breath taking.Nothing comes close.If you do not have one or an ipad 4 you could not possibly comprehend what you are defending. A 2 meg 1080p image is no match to a 4k or more image.You have to be silly to think resolution do not matter.
Graphics cards can do 2560 by 1960 resolution but connected to a 1080pTV you do not get all that. The TV is the weakest link. On a mac display it is very difficult to see the individual pixels unless you have a magnifying glass. With a 1080p TV you can see them with naked eye. On a 4K TV set the pixels have to be more tightly packed to fit in on to the same space as a 1080p TV.Try the comparison.
Again you need to have used a mac display or high res PC screen to appreciate resolution. As an avid digital camera user with an Eos 1, a 4k image on a 4k tv has no equal even with a plasma.The Tv is not just for Bluray and that is my point. It needs wider appeal and 4K does give new hope for the TV sales revival.
A gold plated mac display, like Amir Khan's phone, would probably look even better.
"If you have a mac display like I have"
Why on Earth would anyone Want a mac ... explain plz ?
LG and Samsung are planning 4k broadcast with cable companies in South Korea and will be avaliable by the end of the year. You can see how they do not muck around in meeting the challenges of new 4k hardware in Asia. Here in the UK and Europe it is diabolically backwards.
You have to go to south korea to see the TV broadcast scene, you will be shocked on the advancement. Ask any what hifi journalist and they will tell you.I cannot make you understand what you cannot or have not seen?
If you cannot debate with facts like you normally do....like on the calibration topic...then you really sound desperate? Why, I am telling you the truth.Ask any mac display user. It is no lie.
I'll happily take your word for it on upgrades to South Korean broadcasting infrastructure, but this is of zero consequence to UK consumers. (Unless they plan to move to South Korea.)
I'd advise any South Korean reader to look into how 4k is being implemented; for UK consumers, my earlier point stands. Your 4k evangelism seems blind to the fact that 4k technology is almost useless in the West right now and will very likely remain so for the foreseeable future.
Indeed, well said.
I ain't south korean but the missus is so I have seen alot there I like on TVs. I spend more time there then any of the what hi fi team except Andrew possibly. Anyway, the new TV hardware need to exist in the homes before the software/broadcast can develop.Demand and then supply.It will take a while but expectations are equally important but I read negativity here on 4k in this forum and not even the journalist fronm HCC or What Hi Fi sound that negative?? Why? Do you want a plasma 4k annoucemnent,when there is none, is that the real kernel of the prejudice? Unbelieviable if so?
Frankly, I do not even think you want the next big TV thing as it will make your plasma redundant..... But each to their own.I leave it there.
It will take a while but expectations are equally important but I read negativity here on 4k in this forum and not even the journalist fronm HCC or What Hi Fi sound that negative?? Why? Do you want a plasma 4k annoucemnent,when there is none, is that the real kernel of the prejudice? Unbelieviable if so?
It has nothing to do with plasma. Where's 4K content in the UK? Sky & Virgin have made no announcements towards delivering 4K.....they're not even delivering 1080p. Even Sony isn't releasing its 4K media player in the UK. Broadband speeds here are still not capable of streaming 4K movies.
What's the point of buying a 4K TV now? All you'll get to watch is upscaled SD and HD pictures. 1080p content will look better natively on a 1080p TV than upscaled to fit 4K TV.
Let someone announce commitment to delivering 4K content in the UK, then interest will pick up.
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Looking at the style of posts, I don't believe Gamemaker and z058261 are different members, even though Andrew said in another thread that their registered IP addresses are different.
We now know that at least one of those IP addresses will be registered to an Apple computer.
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