The number of things we agree upon is increasing!!
That's four times this year by my reckoning! I think we're generally in accord if we avoid political threads. That said, I tend to upset more people than yourself once on my soapbox...
This years Pannys Plasma's are all using the same plasma screen, so picture quality is across the board even with the budget and as you go up the range you get better internal specs and build quality
As I understand it, only the ST50 and above use G15 panels. ST50 and GT50 models use the "Infinite Black Pro" filter, while the VT50 uses the "Infinite Black Ultra" filter. You've also got more advanced calibration options on the GT50 and VT50, as well as faster response times and higher shades of colour gradation. It's not just functionality that differentiates Panasonic plasmas.
Ok from what have been reading / research on the web as i'm currently looking for a new plasma is all the 2012 plasma panels are using the G15 panel in panasonics lineup and its not until the ST model and up they start using Infinite Black Pro Filter.
I have been paying alot of interest in the UT models due to costs and having a dark living room, i know there was a review i came across but can't find it now though Panasonics website tells you
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What I can say, having spent some time watching a 50X50 in store, is that it's a solid performer for the price (I haven't seen a UT50 in action). I think it's only 720p, though. I stand corrected on the G15 panel.
The most distracting issue with the X50 was the degree to which reflections were visible. It's worth noting that the same would be true of the UT50. However, I viewed the X50 under bright store lighting and if, as you observe, you're watching in a light controlled environment, this becomes less of an issue.
As I'm sure you know, the UT50 won't give you the same kind of dynamic contrast as the ST50 and above. The UT50 may be the right choice for your needs and budget, but there's little difference in price should an ST50 take your fancy...
So what time of year do TVs reduce in price? I have a Panasonic LCD which I have had for quite a while, and the bezel and speakers are so large a 42" plasma would take up less space than my 37"! I have noticed the 42ST50 on richer sounds web page for £699, or £799 on the panasonic store web page with a six year warranty which seems like a really good deal. I am in no hurry however...
New TVs are usually out April May ish aren't they? How long do I have to wait for a bargain? I don't want to wait until May ish but am happy to wait until new year if you think I could get a good deal. I am happy with £700 ish but would rather have a GT for my money :)
Obviously you guys can't see in to the future, but guessing from patterns from previous years, is there any point in me waiting until new year?
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In my experience, once the following year's sets are unveiled at CES, prices start to fall more steeply. I bought my V20 in March 2011 from Peter Tyson for almost half the original rrp. It was brand new (not refurbished or returned stock). At least that's how it was listed on the retailer's website and there was nothing about the TV or packaging to suggest otherwise.
If you're patient enough, and not concerned by the fact that your new television will immediately be bettered by the following year's model, there are bargains to be had. Feb to March may be the optimum time, as long as you can still track down stock. That's the risk you take, I guess.
Buying just before stocks are replaced by next year's kit has been my pauper's method of building a relatively high-end home cinema system. Unfortunately, any financial benefits are offset by my upgraditis.
Look at the sales on Boxing Day; you may get a nice deal.
Given that Panasonic is continuing heavy losses in its TV business, if it decides to stop making anymore TVs, current stock will quickly be gobbled up & prices can go up. Of course, this is a theoretical situation.
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Interesting thread. Seeing as the TV gurus are here, what's the general consensus on upgrading my 37" 720p Panny plasma of a similar vintage to method mans, to one of the newer ones? I don't watch much in the way of HD - just sport on Sky once a week or so (my bluray player has been used once and is now in a kitchen cupboard), won't be watchng anything in 3d, and really can't see me using any smart features. A bigger screen would be nice, probably a 46", as would an optical out, but my biggest issue is whenever I pop into a TV shop the latest models seem worse then my TV with standard def. Is this because they are worse due to having to upscale more, or poor setup in the shop?
This years are good with standard definition. Tennis and football look the best I have seen on a TV.
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If this happens I will probably buy another one! Probably should decide which one and get my plan in place! It will be either the ST or another GT, probably a ST.
hi all. I also got a toshiba bluray player that is successfully giving me wireless iplayer sometimes in HD. had it for xmas for about 65 quid. its not dropped out once.
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