Congrats Strapped. Hope it continues to put a smile on your face for years to come. I ended up exchanging my GT50 for VT50..It arrives on Tuesday. Going for the newer model was just to costly for me right now. I do have a 90 day cooling of period, so if the VT50 ends up being like the GT50 ,.. Ill exchange for the set you have. But i do hope the VT50 works out for me.
Happy for you strapped, glad you are for now anyway, contented
No idea as to why so many folk HAVE issues with their TV's though..... seems the Pana's have many a problem. Not saying that some folk may indeed be having similar problems with other makes of TV.... just so glad that my own Sammy is free from all problems thus far and hope that this continues until I have saved enough for my next new TV in about six or seven years :) (fingers crossed)
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Tannoy Arena 5.1 with stands.(http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-and-av-speakers/tannoy-arena-96472/review)
Bedroom: Panasonic PX70 TV and a Sony BDP-370 Blu ray Player & Kitsound Boomdock. (quite superb for sound)
So far :)
Civilian, hope the VT50 works out well. Keep us posted.
Alan, glad you're still enjoying the Samsung. I won't be buying another TV for at least five years. I need to stop this expensive habit and the VT65 seems a suitable model to settle on.
Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)
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You couldn't have done any better for one to settle on. I suspect it may not been over taken for quite a while, certainly not near the money you paid for it. The price may drop in the next year but when it is out of stock, it should hold quite a good value.
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Have you used the magic pen?
The pen hasn't come out of the box and I can't think of a single occasion on which I'd use it.
The touch pad remote works quite well though.
I quite like the look of the touch pad remote. How do you remove the pen mark from the screen? I'm going to my local home cinema shop sometime soon, hopefully they have got some new stock.
You can't once the image has been burned into the screen. Best avoid all the swear words.
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How do you remove the pen mark from the screen? I'm going to my local home cinema shop sometime soon, hopefully they have got some new stock.
I haven't got a clue. I might auction the pen on Ebay. I don't think I'd ever use it.
After all the messing around over the last four months, I've now got five pairs of active 3D specs. I might put a couple of pairs up for auction as well.
I'm extremely happy with my system now. It does everything I want to a standard I'm delighted with. The only weak link is the subwoofer; but since I can't use a sub without seriously upsetting neighbours, there's no point in looking for an alternative right now.
In fact, I might auction the subwoofer, too. It's no more than a wooden box that takes up space and is never switched on. The combined take would lessen some of the pain from recent expenditure.
Hope you get to see the new sets in action soon. I'll be interested to hear what you think.
You can't once the image has been burned into the screen.
Since you've had problems with IR, I thought I'd mention that the VT65 exhibits none whatsoever (and I mean none).
I was watching the snooker on my GT50 before it went back. Every time Dennis drew an escape line on screen, it remained visible for quite a while after. This hasn't happenned once on my VT65. Even if I look at a full white screen after testing content with static graphics, I can't see any trace of residual images. Hopefully the same is true of the GT60.
Honestly BBB, if your budget can stretch to it, the VT65 really is the solution you're looking for. I'm stunned by how great the picture is with all content; it's a notable improvement over the GT50 in every regard.
I will be able to afford the VT65, though, PQ wise, I expect the GT60 is every bit as good, so I may wait until JL get the GT60 in, then ask the question.
What's the VT got, that the GT hasn't?
How's the VT65 with standard def pictures?
The difference between the GT60 and VT65 isn't night and day in terms of PQ.
The two main advantages are the filter, which seems extremely effective during daytime viewing, and the red phosphor, which makes reds look, well, more red. (That isn't hyperbole. Older Panasonics couldn't fully saturate red. You genuinely can tell the difference whenever you see a London bus, or postbox, etc. displayed). I'm not sure how much difference the extra shades of gradation make to shadow detail. I'd need to view both TVs, calibrated, side-by-side in a light controlled environment, with suitably testing content.
Aside from PQ, the dual tuner PVR functionality works wonders for me. I have a 1TB HDD attached, which is neatly tucked away and negates the need for an extra box in my already cluttered AV cabinet. I'm guessing this isn't important to you, since you use Sky.
The inbuilt speakers work better than I anticipated too. All sound options are a bit lame except for "Ambience," which sounds surprisingly full and natural. I watched Jools Holland last night and bass notes were reasonably punchy, tuneful, and defined. If you use your TV's inbuilt speakers at all, you'll appreciate the difference.
Beyond the above it's really down to styling. The VT65 is a nice looking TV. The one sheet of glass design really sets the picture off, while the clear strip at the bottom is a nice touch too.
I wouldn't blame you for saving a bit of money and going with the GT60. It's the best value option. I can only add that I wouldn't swap my VT65 for a GT60 and the difference in cost (though my requirements are subtly different from yours).
There's nothing there that makes me think I must have the VT, but I guess it all depends on whether JL will stock the GT, and if they're prepared to exchange my GT50.
I'll be working away until atleast the end of May, so I'll just keep my eye on the GT stock situation.
I'm please you've got the tv you've been after though Strapped, and it does sound like a step up.
I'm watching football now, and the dse is still there, but, only when I look at the right hand side of the screen. The IR problem has lessened, though I can still see traces of the sky sports logo after watching just one half of a game on very light backgrounds, but it does right itself relatively quickly now.
I've got a bit of money owing, but I'm torn between upgrading my av amp, tv, or turntable. I could possibly do two of the three, but as the tv is only 4 months old, it should really come last. That's certainly what my wife thinks.
I can still get the RX-A1020 for £699, and they've also offered me a RX-A2020 for £799, which is a great price, though far too good for my speakers.
Might pop down to JL in a while, and see what they've got in stock, and maybe ask a few questions about possible exchanges and GT60s
It's probably worth a call to check they have the new TVs on display. All branches have the F8500 on the shop floor, but they won't have the GT60 (we don't even know if this model will be stocked). Maybe not every branch has the VT65 up and running yet.
In your situation the GT60 seems something of a no-brainer, if JL stocks this model and will exchange your GT50. Price matched currently you'd only be spending another £250, perhaps leaving enough to upgrade both AVR and turntable.
On the AVR front, I've no complaints about the 810. There were a few initial niggles and some tweaking needed, but it's a supremely capable piece of kit for the price. You shouldn't worry about a warranty, either, since Yamaha provides an extended warranty if you register your purchase online.
It's not my business, but the I think the TV is a priority. For me, getting this right was the difference between owning a system I couldn't enjoy and a system that's left me grinning ear to ear.
If your local JL has the VT65 on display, it's worth a trip just to get a sense of how it performs. I'll be interested to hear how you think it compares with the Samsung.
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